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As the reader will be aware, the “Palestinian” Arabs persistently and falsely-play the “victim-card” as part of their propaganda campaign. “Palestinian” Arab propaganda is highly successful, comparable to that of Nazi Germany, asserting the Jews are the fake-cause of all Palestinian perceived issues.
In reality:
 > The “Palestinian” Arabs are no “victims”.
 > Rather, the “Palestinian” Arabs are victim-makers.
 
Alleged “Palestinian Plight” is “Palestinian” Arab propaganda - Were there any such “Plight”, it would be due-entirely to the nature of Palestinian self-government: Hate-based, conflict-policies, war-based economy, misusing your Aid-money, ignoring the welfare of their own people.
 
The “Palestinian” Arabs are also often falsely-referred to as the “hapless Palestinians”, whereas in reality they are bankrolled by the “European Union”:
Quote: [heading] “How are we helping?”
The E.U. paid the Palestinians €22.5 million in 2019 and €23.7 million in 2020, as quote: “humanitarian funding”:
https://ec.europa.eu/echo/where/middle-e...lestine_en
The “European Union” and the United States bankroll the “Palestinian” Arabs, while the “Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund” rewards murder of Israeli Jewish children, e.g. Hallel Yaffa Ariel, aged 13.
 
What do the allegedly “hapless Palestinians” do with all their U.S. and E.U. taxpayers’ money?
It is used for, or frees-up funding for, paying their reward-“pension” for the murder of Israeli Jews; typically civilians including children:
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“The Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund is a fund operated by the Palestinian Authority (PA) which pays monthly cash stipends to the families of Palestinians killed, injured, or imprisoned while carrying out politically motivated violence against Israel. [...]”
 
Extract source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinia...rtyrs_Fund
 
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Remember, to qualify to be murdered by a “Palestinian” Arab you must be Jewish and there is no lower age restriction. A reward-pension is then paid to the family of the terrorist out of “The Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund” (see above). Part of this funding is French and German government money who launder it through the “European (Union) Commission”, as: “humanitarian aid”.
 
The “Palestinian” Arabs cynically whitewash their anti-Jewish hate-war as:
“uprising”, “defence”, “desperation”, “struggle”, “resistance”:
 
Here is an example from the “Palestinian” Arab on-going anti-Jewish hate-war, where their propaganda typically refers to any consequential security measures as “Israeli-oppression”:
Israeli girl, Hallel Yaffa Ariel, aged 13, fatally stabbed in her bedroom in West Bank by a Palestinian terrorist, June 30, 2016, The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/j...iryat-arba
 
“Palestinian” Arab propaganda false-complaints of:
“oppression” / “persecution” / “discrimination” / “(mis) treatment” / “racism” / “being treated as 2nd class”,
are Palestinian frustration at Israeli security measures for reducing Jewish casualties resulting from the Palestinian anti-Jewish war of ethnic-hatred and territorial ambitions, targeting Israeli Jewish civilians as policy including children (see above).
 
While Israeli security measures are due to the “Palestinian” Arab anti-Jewish war of ethnic-hatred carried out for Palestinian territorial-ambition, “Palestinian” Arab propaganda falsely-accuses Israel / the Jews of “oppression” so as to create a hoax of “Persecution”. The reason is to seek to dishonestly-invoke and misuse the Islamic rules on defense against persecution of Islam (see noble Quran: Surah Al-Baqarah: 190-193).
 
 
Perhaps people may like to consider that a “victim” is not normally characterised by the following, as are the “Palestinian” Arabs:
 > Run their own territories, from which they launch terrorist attacks and rockets against Israel (while falsely-complaining the resulting Israeli economic measures are “collective punishment”).
 > Conduct a war of territorial-ambition and ethnic-hatred against Israel, targeting as policy civilians including children.
No wonder anti-Semites display such emotional-support for the “Palestinian” Arabs !
 > Convert their International Aid Money (your Tax Money by the way) into:
Rockets, weapons of all types, attack tunnels, corruption.
 > Have poor infrastructure, with their available funds poured into their conflict-based economy, ignoring the welfare of their people.
 
 
Israel was Re-established following a United Nations Partition Plan (two-state solution) under resolution 181. In 1947 the “Palestinian” Arabs opposed the U.N. Partition Plan by starting a civil war to instead take ALL the land and expel or murder the Jews:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947%E2%80..._Palestine
 
“Palestinian” Arab propaganda falsely-alleges the Re-establishment of Israel caused: a “great injustice” / “nakba” (“catastrophe” / “disaster”) to the “Palestinian” Arabs.
In reality:
 > The “Palestinian” Arabs violently rejected the Arab state of the United Nations Partition Plan;
 > Jordan and Egypt occupied the land proposed for an Arab state under the U.N. Partition Plan (approximating to the West Bank and Gaza);
 > BOTH Arabs and Jews, became war-refugees;
 > The Palestinians falsely-claim with no evidence of any such policy that they were expelled from the land; Jews were indeed expelled by the Arabs as policy:
The Jews were expelled from East Jerusalem (the “Old City”) by the Jordanians in 1948:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamizati...occupation
 > “Palestinian” Arabs live and work in Israel.
Therefore the reader is entitled to be skeptical about “Palestinian” Arab propaganda alleging a fantasy-injustice.
 
 
Once the “Palestinian” Arabs had tricked Israel into giving them autonomy of part of the West Bank (40%) and the whole of Gaza under the Oslo Accords, the Palestinians since:
 > Do not sincerely negotiate a peace treaty,
 > make an unverifiable false-claim to ALL the land of Israel,
 > attack Israeli Jewish civilians as policy including children (see above).
(10-31-2021, 04:28 PM)Robert Wrote: [ -> ] 
 
...Once the “Palestinian” Arabs had tricked Israel into giving them autonomy of part of the West Bank (40%) and the whole of Gaza...
I really doubt that Israel was tricked. More likely, Israel chose the way out of which would have been the least effective of self-destructive options.
Ideally, Israel would do good in blocking all monetary aid to the "Palestinians" donated by foolish international organizations.
After viewing the following article, you might end up agreeing to my suggestion that they should only be left to feeding themselves, without any external interference from abroad. Even if it means that they eventually end up resorting to Canibalism, to put it mildly:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/wa-cattle-mist...aaYZab9UB3

' Wrote:...Footage shows what has been identified as an Australian bull being "knee-capped" by a man armed with an assault rifle, another stabbed in the eye and others having their throats hacked open in the streets of the Palestinian territory of Gaza...

[Image: 97bf2eca64c9bce7b21ee95254448928]
Quote:I really doubt that Israel was tricked. More likely, Israel chose the way out of which would have been the least effective of self-destructive options.

Ideally, Israel would do good in blocking all monetary aid to the "Palestinians" donated by foolish international organizations. [...]


I used the word "tricked" to describe a factual-circumstance; namely, that Israel entered into the Oslo Accords which contained provisions for "Palestinian" Arab autonomy in exchange for cessation of hostilities and mutual recognition, yet what do we find thereafter: The "Palestinian" Arabs: Continued to claim ALL the land, and continued with their terrorism in support of their unverified and unverifiable territorial claims. 
While being a personal viewpoint therefore, I propose the word "tricked" is not an inappropriate description (in hindsight) for Israel's entry into the Oslo Accords!

Edit:
Why do I use the word "tricked" (rather than "deceived"); isn't the word "tricked" negative?
I find open-minded people (compared to pro-"Palestinian" Arab people) tend to consider the party "tricked" as a victim (compared with using alternative wording). 
Israel gave "land for peace", but got by way of exchange: A war by the "Palestinian" Arabs of ethnic hatred against Israeli Jewish civilians and of territorial ambitions based on unverifiable-claims.


The international organizations to which you refer, would have to be primarily identified as the United States and the European Union. U.S. resumption of cash to the "Palestinian" Arabs appeases the "Progressives" within the Democratic Party and that Party's failure to recognize the land of Israel as being the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people; while French and German money is laundered through the European (Union) Commission as “humanitarian” aid, with zero verification of any such alleged need. Also, with zero effective-controls for preventing the E.U. money being used either for terrorism or for freeing-up money to be used for terrorism, or to prevent it being wasted in corruption. In the European Union's case their financial support to the "Palestinian" Arabs massages the E.U.'s institutionalized anti-Semitism.
FWIW, It would be much easier to read these threads if the body of the initial comments weren't so long that imho the nearly 1000 users signed up for this forum treat it as tl;dr thread. As the the current Palestinian people, they are what their leadership makes them to be. The actual majority of the people have had no choice whether it be in the WB or Gaza. The people have been stuck in time being a welfare state.
Robert Wrote:...In the European Union's case their financial support to the "Palestinian" Arabs massages the E.U.'s institutionalized anti-Semitism.

I would agree fully with your views, if we could credit the E.U. for being the competent and credible entity of which it has never been. Let's not forget that Jews also make up a certain percentage of E.U. representative ministers. If any of them were to detect intentional anti-Semitism, you could be assured that they wouldn't remain silent.
I'm assuming that there are certain economic interests within the E.U. who are using the "Palestinian" issue for either personal economic gain or for that of certain entities of which they represent. Keeping neighboring Arabs happy insures that contracts between E.U. resident companies and Arab customers continue. Saudi Arabia still being the most pampered client of them all. Even though, neighboring Arabs don't particularly care for the "Palestinians", they tend to become suddenly volatile, once non-Arabs begin agressing against them.
(11-22-2021, 08:20 AM)Alan_Boskov Wrote: [ -> ]
Robert Wrote:...In the European Union's case their financial support to the "Palestinian" Arabs massages the E.U.'s institutionalized anti-Semitism.

I would agree fully with your views, if we could credit the E.U. for being the competent and credible entity of which it has never been. Let's not forget that Jews also make up a certain percentage of E.U. representative ministers. If any of them were to detect intentional anti-Semitism, you could be assured that they wouldn't remain silent.
I'm assuming that there are certain economic interests within the E.U. who are using the "Palestinian" issue for either personal economic gain or for that of certain entities of which they represent. Keeping neighboring Arabs happy insures that contracts between E.U. resident companies and Arab customers continue. Saudi Arabia still being the most pampered client of them all. Even though, neighboring Arabs don't particularly care for the "Palestinians", they tend to become suddenly volatile, once non-Arabs begin agressing against them.

The "Palestinian" Arabs, as the E.U. well knows, pays a reward-pension for the murder of Israeli Jewish civilians. This is known as the "Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund": 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinia...rtyrs_Fund

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Quote:"IAN BIRRELL FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY
 
“Ahmad Musa sits beside me, a convicted double murderer sentenced to life in prison. As we talk, I ask him if he did indeed kill the two men. ‘Yes, I shot them dead,’ he replies.
 
Yet we do not meet in a jail cell. Musa is free, released after just five years. For he is a Palestinian terrorist and he was liberated under a peace deal.
 
Like thousands more Palestinian prisoners, including jihadi bombers and killers of children, Musa enjoys his freedom after being awarded a ‘salary’ for life.
 
He gets £605 every month, others get far more. If they die, the cash goes to their family. These men are seen as terrorists, certainly by Israel, and many in the West [...] 

Former prisoners and the families of terrorists we have spoken to also confirmed receiving cash from both the PA [Palestinian Authority] and the PLO [Palestinian Liberation Organization. ...]”.
  
Extract source: 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...exist.htmle:


To qualify to be murdered by a “Palestinian” Arab you must be Jewish and there is no lower age restriction. A reward-pension is then paid to the family of the terrorist out of “The Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund”. Part of this funding is French and German government money who launder it through the “European (Union) Commission”, as: “humanitarian aid”.

Example from the “Palestinian” Arab on-going anti-Jewish hate-war, where their propaganda typically refers to any consequential security measures as “Israeli-oppression”: 
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Quote:23 August 2019 ... Israeli girl ... Rina Shnerb [age 17 was killed; she] had been hiking with her brother Dvir and her father Eitan near a natural spring outside Dolev when an improvised explosive device blew up.

Extract source:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49447035
 
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The “European Union” bankrolls the “Palestinian” Arabs:
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Quote:“[Heading:] How are we helping?
In 2021, the European Union provided €34 million [EXR. Nov 11, 2021, USD $38,924,900] in humanitarian funding for Palestinians in need, including funds to address emerging needs due to the coronavirus pandemic and the recent violence in Gaza. [...]”

“[Heading:] How are we helping?
In 2020, the European Union is providing €23.7 million [EXR. Jan 31, 2021, USD $28,765,875] in humanitarian funding for Palestinians ... including funds to address [the ...] coronavirus.”
[The E.U. paid the “Palestinian” Arabs €22.5 million in 2019 when there was no coronavirus!]

Extracts source:
(Recycled webpage where the amounts stated on it change according to the applicable year): 
https://ec.europa.eu/echo/where/middle-e...lestine_en

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Supporting anti-Semitism IS anti-Semitism.
(11-20-2021, 08:28 PM)Alan_Boskov Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-31-2021, 04:28 PM)Robert Wrote: [ -> ] 
 
...Once the “Palestinian” Arabs had tricked Israel into giving them autonomy of part of the West Bank (40%) and the whole of Gaza...
I really doubt that Israel was tricked. More likely, Israel chose the way out of which would have been the least effective of self-destructive options.
Ideally, Israel would do good in blocking all monetary aid to the "Palestinians" donated by foolish international organizations.
After viewing the following article, you might end up agreeing to my suggestion that they should only be left to feeding themselves, without any external interference from abroad. Even if it means that they eventually end up resorting to Canibalism, to put it mildly:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/wa-cattle-mist...aaYZab9UB3

Quote:...Footage shows what has been identified as an Australian bull being "knee-capped" by a man armed with an assault rifle, another stabbed in the eye and others having their throats hacked open in the streets of the Palestinian territory of Gaza...

[Image: 97bf2eca64c9bce7b21ee95254448928]


No discourtesy meant, but I believe it is better to provide a link to the original source rather than a third party. See here for the "Animals Australia" (https://www.animalsaustralia.org/) footage, but beware that the material is disturbing.
The above image may be seen at 1m, 36 sec in.
(This post does not indicate I believe the footage is proved verified.): 
http://www.animalsaustralia-media.org/up...trip-2013/
I remember reading to the PLO "refugees" in Lebanon the proudist possession was a Ak-47 (going rate $3,000.00 a pop) and when it seemed the PLO would be killed off by the Christians...the PLO was evacuaped by ship so that they would be "saved"....Jewish refugees from Arab/muslins countries have never been Saved by the UN,,,,,,
Robert Wrote:...I believe it is better to provide a link to the original source rather than a third party...

How many links will be needed, in order to prove authenticity?

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/...z3GyJ3544h

' Wrote:...the bulls' ear tags identify them as Australian and belonging to the Perth-based Livestock Shipping Services (LSS).

The group claimed the same exporter has been reported for more than a dozen breaches of regulations in the Middle East...
These exporters should be individually captured and then sent to the Arabs as play toys, paying only a fraction of dues possible.
(11-22-2021, 04:54 PM)Alan_Boskov Wrote: [ -> ]
Robert Wrote:...I believe it is better to provide a link to the original source rather than a third party...

How many links will be needed, in order to prove authenticity?

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/...z3GyJ3544h

Quote:...the bulls' ear tags identify them as Australian and belonging to the Perth-based Livestock Shipping Services (LSS).

The group claimed the same exporter has been reported for more than a dozen breaches of regulations in the Middle East...
These exporters should be individually captured and then sent to the Arabs as play toys, paying only a fraction of dues possible.


You chose to interpret my comment as denying the authenticity of the video - I did not; however I understand your irritation. Rather, it should have been clear from from my comment that all I am pointing out is the authenticity of any video does not become verified simply by the nature of the website hosting it. In other words, my comment constitutes a sort of "disclaimer" (since I provided a link), should subsequently the authenticity of the video in question become called into question. (It would certainly not surprise me if the video is genuine; which likely it is.) 
By the way, does anyone know what that sign in the image says (in English)?
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