(08-18-2019, 04:15 AM)Moriel Fall Wrote: As a -very- spurious tangent, I found it quite interesting how atheists are so offended by the "magic" of some "magical being" "magically" saying "let there be light" and the universe popping into existence.

And, then if you look at the big bang... where secular scientists all agree the laws of physics must completely break down, but the first few moments where physics were capable of applying, the entire universe is assumed to have been amazingly dense and hot and made of a staggering mass of matter and anti-matter, annihilating each other and creating photons (light).   The matter we were left with in our universe is simply the tiny degree by which matter happened to outnumber antimatter... otherwise, in the very first moments, the universe was almost entirely comprised of light.

Always find it interesting when science tries so hard to avoid religion that science ends up supporting it.