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Exodus 21 - gib65 - 03-14-2026 In Exodus 20, we are given the 10 Commandments. It is followed by a series of ordinances that spill over into the next few chapters. Exodus 21, for example, which we get into here, covers the treatment of slaves and assault and battery. As always, my sources are: * primary: chabad.org * secondary: biblegateway.com (NIV version) * And if all else fails: chatgpt.com Exodus 21:2 Wrote:Should you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall work [for] six years, and in the seventh [year], he shall go out to freedom without charge. I have to say, this is very unexpected. In my last thread about Exodus 20, it was emphasized that the reason even "the stranger in your city" was not to work on the Sabbath was to enforce a way of life for the Isrealites that worked against slavery and coerced labor. But here, we see God condoning slavery, at least for six years. Perhaps it ought to be read in context. That is to say, if slaves were owned for life before this ordinance, limiting such ownership to six years might have been seen as merciful. Maybe it was seen as a way to limit to evils of slavery such that those who owned slaves wouldn't be too eager to reject this ordinance and rebel against God's commands (reminds me of The Slave Trade Clause in the US constitution--that the slave trade in the US was to end by 1808--seen by some as morally abhorent given that they could have ended it immediately, but in fact was intended to give the slave owning states enough time to adjust to living within a union where the slave trade would be illegal, thereby making them more willing to accept the constitution, join the union, and defeat the British... but I digress). The point is, everything in context. But I wonder what Jewish scholars and other thinkers on the subject think of this source of potential cognitive dissonance. On another note, it doesn't escape me that the 6 years of slavery followed by freedom in the 7th year maps perfectly onto the 6 days of creation followed by the day of rest, and the 6 days of work followed by the Sabbath, a day of rest and spiritual reflection. And I assume that the slave's freedom in the 7th year lasts for the rest of his life--as opposed to his having freedom only in the 7th year and then back to slavery for the next 6 years, like the repeating work week after each Sabbath. I also assume the 6 years applies to Isrealites who already owned slaves at the time this ordinance was announced; as in--you have 6 years to make the most of your slave(s)--as opposed to, if you've owned your slave(s) for 6 years or more, you must set them free as of now. And is there anything to the wording of "Hebrew" slave? For example, if someone owned an Ethiopian slave, would this ordinance not count for them? Now, if you thought this verse sounded inhumane, check out verses 3 to 6: Exodus 21:3-6 Wrote:3 If he comes [in] alone, he shall go out alone; if he is a married man, his wife shall go out with him. 4 If his master gives him a wife, and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and he shall go out alone. 5 But if the slave says, "I love my master, my wife, and my children. I will not go free," 6 his master shall bring him to the judges, and he shall bring him to the door or to the doorpost, and his master shall bore his ear with an awl, and he shall serve him forever. Damn! Talk about a sticky predicament! One might at first think this is a no brainer--just keep your mouth shut and go free--but at the cost of betraying your wife and children? Well, if the consequence is that nobody goes free and has to serve their master forever, maybe it is a no brainer after all. But let's look at this in more detail. First of all, from verse 3, it's pretty clear that the husband and wife come and go together. But it doesn't mention anything about children. If the slave comes with a wife and children, do the children also go out with their parents after 6 years? I would think so, but it's not explicitely stated. Now if the master gives him a wife and they bear children, as verse 4 says, they don't go free together. This could mean something as simple as: the wife and children must stay for their 6 years and then go free. So, for example, if the master gives the slave a wife in the 3rd year, and then they bear a child in the 4th year, then he goes free in the 6th year, she goes free in the 9th year, and the child goes free in the 10th year. The alternative interpretation is that the wife and children remain slaves forever. The latter interpretation seems to be supported by the consequence of the father/husband refusing to leave in his 6th year--he is to remain a slave forever--implying, one could suppose, that if he's choosing to stay with his wife and children, he must stay forever since they stay forever. Speaking of the choice to remain, I wouldn't immediately interpret the consequence of remaining a slave forever a punishment if it wasn't for that awl thingy being bored into his ear. OUCH!!! I can see no other purpose for that except to punish him for choosing to stay. Why would it have been so imperative for the slave to leave after 6 years? The only answer I can think of is that, like my interpretation above, the 6 year limit was a way of deminishing slavery, so much so that, even if by the slave's own will, refusal to accept freedom was punishable by such a barbaric treatment. Maybe the fact that he has a wife and kid(s) was seen as a potential insentive to stay, and so had to be deterred. But then again, the master has an insentive too--slaves are useful! (It makes one wonder, what was the punishment for the slave owner if he refused to let his slave free in the 6th year?). Verse 5 gives an example of what a slave might say: "I love my master, my wife, and my children. I will not go free,"--and I interpret this to be just an example of what the slave's reasons for staying might be--but what if it's a condition for the punishment for breaking this ordinance? I mean, what if the slave's reason is "I kinda like it here; I always get fed, I always have a place to sleep, my master treats me well"? <-- Note that this doesn't require a wife or children. Does the same punishment apply? And if we get really specific, does it depend on the slave's love for his master? I mean, the quote could have been: "I love my wife and my children". But verse 5 includes love for the master as well. Does the condition for the punishment get that specific? And one might wonder, what slave would ever love their master? But again, one must put themselves in the context of the times. Perhaps love for the master was an expectation of the slave, maybe a sign that he was a "good" slave. After all, to feed, clothe, and shelter a person who would otherwise be out on the street with no way to feed himself or find secure shelter might have been seen, at the time, as an act of benevolence. But anyway you cut it, a slave being punished with an awl in his ear and then eternal slavery thereafter seems especially cruel if it follows an expression of love on the slave's part for his master. And why bring the slave to the door or doorpost before drilling his ear with the awl? Most likely, to make a public display of it. It means, from what I surmise, to take the slave outside for the general public to witness the punishment, a common practice before modern times so as to maximize the deterring effect of the punishment. And finally, I assume the gender roles here are intentional. That is, only males can be purchased as slaves, and females given to the slave as a wife for the purpose of producing children (who also become slaves). But if that's the case, where is the wife taken from? Perhaps the slave trade at the time included both men and women, but the laws surrounding ownership of slaves distinguished between men and women. Men could be bought as slaves straight up, whereas women could be bought as slaves only as concubines to male slaves already owned. In other words, there shouldn't have been any female "standalone" slaves. And again, I assume this is still in the context of "Hebrew" slaves. Perhaps verses 7 to 11 will shed some light on these. Exodus 21:7-11 Wrote:7 Now if a man sells his daughter as a maidservant, she shall not go free as the slaves go free. 8 If she is displeasing to her master, who did not designate her [for himself], then he shall enable her to be redeemed; he shall not rule over her to sell her to another person, when he betrays her. 9 And if he designates her for his son, he shall deal with her according to the law of the daughters [of Israel]. 10 If he takes another [wife] for himself, he shall not diminish her sustenance, her clothing, or her marital relations. 11 And if he does not do these three things for her, she shall go free without charge, without [payment of] money. Well, lo and behold, it does explain how the law works for female slaves. Now, it calls her a "maidservant" which in modern parlance means she gets paid for her work, which certainly bears no relation to marriage or child bearing. But a quick google search tells me that in the biblical context, this is typically the intent. It says exactly: Google Gemini Wrote:Based on an analysis of Exodus 21:7–11, a daughter "sold" by her father as a amah (maidservant/handmaid) was not a chattel slave in the modern sense, but rather a form of indentured servant or concubine (a wife of lower status). She was not "paid" a salary, but the transaction was a form of protection against extreme poverty, aiming for her to become a wife or daughter-in-law in the household. A lot of context there--enough to say the roles of male slaves and female maidservants was definitely different--but without getting too tangled in exact definitions, let's pick apart verses 7 to 11. According to verse 7, these ordinances only apply if the maidservant is a daughter of a man who sold her to a master. Or was this the only way a female could become a maidservant anyway? Now it's verse 8 that really throws me for a loop. What does "did not designate her for himself" mean? Meaning that the master didn't take her as wife/concubine? Verse 9 seems to imply this as a possibility (he can designate her to his son), but I'm wondering if the insertion of "for himself" in the translation over at chabad.org is misplaced, and the verse really means to say: if the master didn't designate her to anyone at all--as in, she is just a servant--cleaning, cooking, taking care of his children--but not being wedded to nor having children with anyone. After all, I have to imagine that some slave owners were already married to ordinary Isrealite citizens, and therefore it would be inappropriate to take a maidservant as a wife or concubine--in which case, she'd just do work as an ordinary slave--but then again, the google definition above suggests that maidservants can be "a wife of lower status"--so already having a wife doesn't seem to be a show stopper. Was marriage in Israel at the time considered exclusive? Will have to consult biblegateway.com and ChatGPT later. In any case, the real loop here (that I'm thrown through) is "then he shall enable her to be redeemed"--redeemed how?--this seems to stand in stark contrast to the slave who refuses to go free in the 6th year--severe punishment vs chance to be redeemed--and this: "he shall not rule over her to sell her to another person"--this is what it means to be redeemed? Is this another way of saying he shall set her free? As in, if she displeases you, you can just let her go. And particularly: you can't just get rid of her by selling her to another person. Maybe this is where the term "enable" plays a role. It doesn't say that he shall redeem her; it says that he shall enable her to be redeemed--meaning, perhaps, he shall give her the choice of whether to go free or remain a maidservant (again, quite the contrast with the male slave who rejects his freedom). If she goes free, this makes sense out of not ruling over her to sell to another person. And if she stays, well, then he continues to rule over her until he sells her to someone else. All this would make perfect sense, wrapped up in a nice little bow, if it wasn't for the last part of this verse: "when he betrays her". Betrays her how? If anything, I would think her displeasing him would count as a betrayal against him. The only thing I can think of is that "betrayal" might mean sleeping with another women. So effectively, this passage is saying if she displeases him, and she is not redeemed (whatever that means), he may choose someone else to marry and/or be concubine, but at the cost of ruling over her (i.e. he marries/sleeps with another women, he relinquishes ownership of her). But again, this doesn't quite work because this whole verse is couched in the assumption that the master "did not designate her" (for himself or anyone). Maybe the rule is: even if you don't intend to marry or sleep with your maidservant, you may not marry or sleep with another (unless she displeases you, of course). Sooo confused. Anyway, verse 9 talks about what happens if the master designates his maidservant to his son. So his son marries/sleeps with the maidservant (makes one wonder if a male slave can be designated to a daughter, but I don't think that's the way things were done in these times). All it says on this score is that she shall be dealt with (if she displeases his son, or perhaps himself, I'm assuming) according to the laws of the daughters. What are the laws of the daughters? I thought these were the laws the Isrealites are to follow. Are these laws of the daughters laid out elsewhere in the Torah? Perhaps in Genesis? In any case, it doesn't leave much to think about (which might be a good thing). And verses 10 and 11? These are more or less straight forward--if the master takes another wife/concubine for himself, it doesn't nullify his responsibilities as master to his maidservant--he must still take care of her basic needs--which totally blows my interpretation of "betrayal" out of the water (unless it's like modern day alimony ). Then again, there's a bit of ambiguity over "he". These verses follow immediately after the verse about designating the maidservant to his son--so by "he", are verses 10 and 11 referring to the master or his son? In either case, if the master doesn't provide these 3 things (sustenance, clothing, and marital status), then she goes free. My only question here is: by these 3 things, is it any one of these three things, or all 3 things. So if he fails to provide clothing for his maidservant, but continues to feed her and keeps her marital status (whatever that means), is she free, or does he have to fail on all 3 fronts?Well, that seems to be it for the ordinance on slaves and maidservants. The next handful of verses appears to be about assault and battery. Exodus 21:12-14 Wrote:12 One who strikes a man so that he dies shall surely be put to death. 13 But one who did not stalk [him], but God brought [it] about into his hand, I will make a place for you to which he shall flee. 14 But if a man plots deliberately against his friend to slay him with cunning, [even] from My altar you shall take him to die. Verses 12 and 14 are clear. It's the one in the middle (13) which is obscure. The word "stalk" is ambiguous. If it bears any relation to how we use that term today, it sounds something like to persue. In other words, if one does not intentionally persue (go after, hunt down) the man one strikes (because God brought it about that they simply cross paths such that (I guess) some altercation takes place), then God will see to it that the man flees to a place where he doesn't bother one anymore (and this would be for the sake of the man who strikes, thus "for you"). But if the man strikes, there's no less possibility in this case that he would kill the other man... unless this is what God is saying--that He will ensure the struck man will flee instead of die (and thus no punishment is exacted?). Verse 14 seems to reiterate the stalking scenario, describing it as "plotting" instead of "stalking", which gives richer context to the meaning of these words. It adds that even deliberation is punishable by death, clearly making no distinction between intent and deed. It adds further that he is to be taken even from God's altar (because he's praying or sacrificing, I assume), emphasizing the seriousness of such deliberations. Also note a few differences between verses 12 and 14. Verse 12 describes a man who dies from being struck, implying the death doesn't have to be intentional, whereas verse 14 explicitely mentions plotting "deliberately against his friend to slay him..." meaning there is definitely the intent to kill. And unlike verse 12, verse 14 refers to the man's "friend", perhaps serving as the reason why such a crime is severe enough to warrant being taken even from God's altar. BibleGateway.com renders this passage as follows: biblegateway.com Wrote:12 Anyone who strikes a person with a fatal blow is to be put to death. 13 However, if it is not done intentionally, but God lets it happen, they are to flee to a place I will designate. 14 But if anyone schemes and kills someone deliberately, that person is to be taken from my altar and put to death. According to this, the unintentional nature of killing a man by striking him only applies to verse 13. It doesn't shed any light on the meaning of "stalk", but seems to have in its place "intentionally". So "one who did not stalk [him]" apparently means "if he did not do it intentionally". Also apparently, "God brought [it] about into his hand" means "God let it happen". And finally, "I will make a place for you to which he shall flee" means "they are to flee to a place I will designate." (I was thrown off by the inconsistent pronouns "you" and "he".) Note that this translation makes no mention of "friend", so I guess whether the victim is a friend, a foe, or a stranger is inconsequential, meaning the severity of the crime (enough to arrest him even at God's altar) comes purely from the scheming and planning. Makes one wonder how God will inform the man who strikes of the place He designates? A sign? Will He literally come down and speak to the man? Must he consult a member of the clergy? Must he figure it out himself? Or is this part of the justice system? More like an exile than a fleeing from the law, the exact place being determined by the judge? Exodus 21:18-19 Wrote:18 And if men quarrel, and one strikes the other with a stone or with a fist, and he does not die but is confined to [his] bed, 19 if he gets up and walks about outside on his support, the assailant shall be cleared; he shall give only [payment] for his [enforced] idleness, and he shall provide for his cure. This passage leaves out what the punishment is if the man doesn't get up (or gets up but doesn't walk outside). If a fatal blow is met with death, I would think a non-fatal blow would be met with something less severe than death. If the victim gets up and walks outside without supports, I assume it's fair to say he has recovered, and that's the end of the whole affair. In that case, the assailant receives the full punishment for the time the victim took to recover. But what about cases where the victim is disabled in a way that doesn't require supports, like a broken hand or a blind eye? I suppose the idea is that if he's bed ridden, the damage must be to his legs and therefore he requires supports in order to get up and walk. But that doesn't mean a broken hand or a blind eye makes him any less debilitated and stuck to his home. The debilitation seems to pivot specifically on being confined to bed and thereby not being able to work or go about town doing his business. In that case, it sounds like the punishment is not just for the "enforced idleness" and the cure, but for wages lost due to inability to work. Exodus 21:20-21 Wrote:And should a man strike his manservant or his maidservant with a rod, and [that one] die under his hand, he shall surely be avenged. 21 But if he survives for a day or for two days, he shall not be avenged, because he is his property. Well, this seems like strange reasoning. I'm not sure why the time it takes for the manservant or maidservant to die makes a difference. Either way, the master killed him/her. And either way, they are his property. Perhaps it made more sense in the context of the times. And the meaning of "avenged" seems deliberately vague. Obviously, death is not the only option (if an option at all). But what constitutes avengence is not clear. I suppose a judge decides. The meaning of "rod" is also unclear, but I assume it means some kind of long hand-held stick of sorts meant to whip or beat his servants when the master deemed it approperiate. Not something meant to kill as the killing seems to be the crime here (makes one wonder what the punishment is for deliberately killing one's servants). I would think such "rods" were common place at the time, and a master was expected to own one and use it (if necessary) for just this purpose. Otherwise, why would this ordinance be limited just to rods? Why not stones or other hard objects, or even fists? The assumption must be that the practice of disciplining your slave was to be done with special rods for this very purpose, and it was meant to be carried out calmly as a standard proceedure, as opposed to an outburst of rage which could result in the master grabbing any nearby object like a pot and assulting his slave with it. Exodus 21:22-25 Wrote:22 And should men quarrel and hit a pregnant woman, and she miscarries but there is no fatality, he shall surely be punished, when the woman's husband makes demands of him, and he shall give [restitution] according to the judges' [orders]. 23 But if there is a fatality, you shall give a life for a life, 24 an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a hand for a hand, a foot for a foot, 25 a burn for a burn, a wound for a wound, a bruise for a bruise. Does the hitting of the pregnant woman have to be purposeful? I don't think so as restitution implies damages or losses regardless of intent. Verse 23 makes sense in the context fatalities (the woman's), but then verse 24 and 25 go on about eyes, teeth, hands, feet, burns, wounds, and bruises. Is this to be read in the context of no fatalities? As in, if the assailant struck the woman in the eye and she lost sight, the loss of his own eye would be added to the restitution over and above that for the miscarriage. Or is it to be read as just an elaboration on the justification for this form of justice. As in, if the woman dies, the assailant shall have his own life taken, just as you would take an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, etc.. Or is this to be read as a generalization of any kind of altercation in which one person assults another, and it was slipped in here because it was on topic. As in, if the woman dies, the assailant shall have his own life taken, and by the way, the rule in general is that, for any altercation between two people, if one takes the other's eye, he shall have his eye taken, and if one takes the other's tooth, he shall have his tooth taken, etc.. Exodus 21:26-27 Wrote:26 And if a man strikes the eye of his manservant or the eye of his maidservant and destroys it, he shall set him free in return for his eye, 27 and if he knocks out the tooth of his manservant or the tooth of his maidservant, he shall set him free in return for his tooth. No ambiguity here. An eye for freedom and a tooth for freedom. But is it limited to an eye and a tooth, or does the list of tits-for-tats in verses 25 and 26 apply even here (but implicitely). Of course, it's not an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, but an eye for freedom and a tooth for freedom, but the point is, does it implicitely go through the whole list from eye to bruise? I actually don't think so, as verse 25 lists injuries one can recover from, and if a master is allowed to strike his servants with a rod, one can't not expect some form of wounding or bruising, or maybe even burning. But it seems like the losing of a hand or a foot (verse 24) ranks right up there with eyes and teeth, so I see no reason these wouldn't be implied after mentioning an eye for freedom and a tooth for freedom. Exodus 21:28 Wrote:And if a bull gores a man or a woman and [that one] dies, the bull shall surely be stoned, and its flesh shall not be eaten, and the owner of the bull is clear. Poor bull, one might think, he doesn't know any better, he's just an animal acting on instrincts. But we do the same in today's world. We often put dogs down if they repeatedly attack and injure or kill people. We even hunt down wild animals, like bears or sharks, if they attack or kill human beings. The point is not to punish them for bad deeds, but to do away with them before they cause even more damage or death. They say that once an animal gets a taste for attacking, injuring, or killing (a taste for blood), it becomes less reserved about doing it again. So they must be put down. It's unfortunate, but a necessary part of protecting ourselves. The part I don't quite get is the prohibition against eating the bull's flesh. Is the fact that the bull is a killer somehow seeped into his flesh, like a poison that, if eaten, transfers to you? I know later in Isrealite history (correct me if I'm wrong), they had a practice of transferring sin from a person to a goat and then sent that goat off into the wilderness (thus the term "scapegoat"). Could this be an early precursor of this idea? That the bull, in killing a person, has sort of "sinned" and therefore eating its flesh would transfer the sin over to you? If so, this casts some doubt on my above interpretation. I said the purpose of the bull's death is not a punishment, but a way of protecting people from the harm it does. But if the prohibition of eating its flesh is grounded on the idea that its sins will be transferred to you, then it sounds like this verse is saying the bull really is guilty of murder, that it has sinned, and actually deserves to die. What did the Isrealites actually believe about animal violence and animal sin? Exodus 21:29-30 Wrote:29 But if it is a [habitually] goring bull since yesterday and the day before yesterday, and its owner had been warned, but he did not guard it, and it puts to death a man or a woman, the bull shall be stoned, and also its owner shall be put to death, 30 insofar as ransom shall be levied upon him, he shall give the redemption of his soul according to all that is levied upon him. Verse 29 is clear. It's verse 30 that confuses me. What ransom is it talking about? And is the "redemption of his soul" being considered payment for the ransom? So in addition to being put to death, if someone demands ransom for damages, that ransom can be paid for by the man's soul (or the redemption thereof) in proportion to whatever's levied against him. I guess that really puts it in God's hands, doesn't it? <-- If this interpretation is right, it means they must have believed in an afterlife in which God could exact punishment for unredeemed souls, and in this case, in proportion to the levies put on him. So it doesn't sound like everlasting damnation in Hell, but a limited punishment for a short while until the ransom is paid. Once again, BibleGateway.com makes way more sense of this: BibleGateway.com Wrote:30 However, if payment is demanded, the owner may redeem his life by the payment of whatever is demanded. This doesn't even need explanation. It's crystal clear on its surface. But is it accurate? Better clarity for a modern audience may sometimes be at the cost of translational accuracy. Exodus 21:31 Wrote:Or if it gores a young boy or a young girl, according to this ordinance shall be done to him. What shall be done to him? Is it saying the default punishment (death) shall be done to him if the bull gores a child, that none are to demand a levy in the case of the death of children? According to BibleGateway.com, it seems like just the opposite: BibleGateway.com Wrote:31 This law also applies if the bull gores a son or daughter. Since verse 29 speaks of goring a man or a woman, this verse seems to be simply clarifying that this ordinance applies to children as well. Exodus 21:33 Wrote:And if a person opens a pit, or if a person digs a pit and does not cover it, and a bull or a donkey falls into it, 34 the owner of the pit shall pay; he shall return money to its owner, and the dead body shall be his. Did this happen often? Were donkeys and bulls regularly falling into pits? If not, this seems like such an arbitrary ordinance. For example, why limit it to donkeys and bulls? Why not goats? Why not sheep? Were all other animals just more careful? More resilient? Were bulls and donkeys just that much more valuable? Anyway, the punishment seems fair. In fact, it doesn't seem like a punishment at all. He's simply buying a meal he can feed his wife and kids for days. Other than that, all other verses are pretty straight forward. I will bring in ChatGPT to add some insight into some of the questions I posed above, but that will be for a later post. And then it will be on to Exodus 22. RE: Exodus 21 - gib65 - 05-15-2026 I've had a chance to consult ChatGPT about some of my questions above. What it had to say follows. But first, let me state that I had to split this post into two parts since the whole exceeds the forum character limit on posts. So this is part 1. On the tension between the push against slavery implicit in the 4th Commandment (that not even the stranger in your city is to work on the Sabbath because that reminds the Israelites that forced labor is wrong) and the ordinances surrounding the treatment of slaves and servants: ChatGPT Wrote:So is this contradictory? ChatGPT Wrote:In the ancient Near Eastern context: ChatGPT Wrote:So while slavery is still present legally, it is being: ChatGPT Wrote:A helpful analogy So it's much like I thought. The purpose of the slavery ordinances is not to condone slavery but to deal with the fact that it already existed and how to manage it in the most humane way possible given the moral parameters (implicit as they may be) of the 4th Commandment. (This tells me my comparison to the Slave Trade Clause in the US constitution and the reasons behind it were spot on.) ChatGPT also adds that slavery was a kind of solution to the problem of homelessness and poverty (the first social welfare program, so to speak). By taking people off the streets (or who were in danger of losing everything) and putting them to work in your home (or business?), the slave owner was in fact saving the slave from a worse outcome (or so they thought anyway). But why not hire them to serve you instead, or pay them for their work? Well, for one thing, that probably seemed like a pointless distinction to make at the time. What's the difference, they might ask, between giving the slave money to pay for the things he needs vs. giving him the things he needs directly? Either way, it's a fair and equitable transaction. But there's still a difference between owning a slave and hiring them in exchange for pay. The difference? Ownership excludes freedom, whereas being paid to work still allows the employed to choose not to work in acceptance of no payment. Perhaps part of the problem was that many of those who were homeless or living in poverty were like that because they refused to work. So it would be pointless to offer payment for work since, if that worked, they would have been employed already. Furthermore, it wouldn't work as a solution to the problem of poverty and homelessness since those who choose not to work would still be homeless and poor. But in this case, that's more a concern for those who didn't like having poverty and homelessness in their city, not for the poor and homeless themselves... either that or it's a matter of knowing what's good for the poor and homeless better than the poor and homeless themselves... and that might have been an acceptable argument at the time (someone correct me). Finally, ChatGPT brings up the point that slavery was already an institution at the time of the introduction of this ordinance. How far back does this institution go? Did it arise in the wilderness after the Israelites were set free? Did it exist while still enslaved to the Egyptians? After all, why couldn't you have an institution of slavery in a community of already-slaves (double slavery?). Some might argue: why condone slavery when you're already viscerally aware of the horrors of slavery from your own experiences? And the answer is: human beings generally react to abuse (of which slavery is an example) in two diametrically opposed ways. They either conclude 1) that if it's happening, it must be acceptable. Therefore, why can't I do it? Or 2) that from first hand experience, this abuse is wrong, so I should never do it to someone else. I maintain that #1 was possible for some of the Hebrew slaves while under Egyptian captivity. In fact, ChatGPT has an answer to this too: ChatGPT Wrote:Short answer: slavery among the Hebrews goes back at least to the time of the patriarchs (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob)—so well before the Exodus—and likely reflects even older Near Eastern practices that Israel inherited and adapted. So slavery is an institution that goes even farther back than the years of the Hebrews' own slavery under the Egyptians. I don't know if that means slavery continued during those years (I mean, with the Hebrews as masters, obviously not as slaves to the Egyptians) or was prohibited by Egyptian law. In fact, I might be so bold as to wonder whether their own enslavement under the Egyptians was God's way of teaching the lesson of the immorality of slavery. That slavery continued after they were freed may not necessarily be interpreted as a failure to learn this lesson as the 4th Commandment and its implications on anti-slavery, plus the ordinances in question, clearly stand as a move away from slavery, and ultimately (some would say) to the wholesale banning of slavery that survives to this day. Maybe this was lost on some of the freed Hebrews, but it was definitely there in the people as a whole, enough so to make it into the Torah in the form of the 4th Commandment and this ordinance on slavery (and as some would say, carrying through all the way to the Emancipation Declaration in the United States of America). It all started in Egypt. Now onto my next question: Is the slave's freedom in the 7th year permanent or just for that 7th year? ChatGPT Wrote:In Book of Exodus 21:2, the release after six years is permanent, not just for the seventh year. ChatGPT Wrote:Confirmation elsewhere in the Torah What are the rules surrounding non-Hebrew slaves? Recall that Exodus 21:2 prefaces the ordinances on slavery to Hebrew slaves: "Should you buy a Hebrew slave...". So how does this ordinance apply, if at all, to non-Hebrews? ChatGPT Wrote:So what about non-Hebrew slaves? ChatGPT Wrote:However—there are still limits on treatment ChatGPT Wrote:How to understand this overall So I guess my interpretation was correct. The mentioning of "Hebrew" does in fact mean these ordinances apply exclusively to Hebrew slaves. As for non-Hebrews, the laws surrounding slavery (which pre-existed this ordinance according to ChatGPT), remain unchanged. And I wonder if this has anything to do with Hebrew identity at the time. For one thing, Egyptian enslavement was imposed foremostly on the Hebrews. For another thing, the Hebrews would often refer to themselves as "God's chosen people", effectively raising them above other nations and other people. And for a third thing, it is the Hebrews who are given the 10 Commandments, no one else, a set of laws not only designed to run a society effectively and prosperously but to keep everyone who observes them morally pure (or at least more pure than those who don't). So it occurs to me that the wrongness of slavery was, at the time, seen as more befitting of the Hebrews because of their superior moral status than other nations or people who didn't seem to recognize any wrongness in slavery at all. What is the fate of the slave's wife and children in the situation where the slave is given a wife by the master? Do they serve their own 6 years or are they permanent? According to ChatGPT, this really is an ambiguous passage and there is no clear cut answer to this question. But there are other passages in and outside of Exodus that shed more light on the question. ChatGPT Wrote:Does this mean “forever”? ChatGPT Wrote:Their status depends on who they are (BTW, the use of "brother" in Deuteronomy 15:12 doesn't mean "male" specifically, but a fellow Hebrew, similar to how we might say "kinsman"--doesn't mean "man" per se but neighbor or community member... or so ChatGPT says.) ChatGPT Wrote:What’s going on beneath the surface? So the point is to give the slave a choice. After all, the prospect of being permanently cut off from one's family might be considered even crueler than permanent slavery. ChatGPT Wrote:So what’s the most accurate answer? A lot of clarity on the details but no definitive answer. What happens if the slave comes with a wife but they have children during their servitude? I gather from ChatGPT's answer that it hinges on their placement in the household. Since the master is the top authority in the household, the wife and the children, because they now live within the household, are subordinate to the master. But they are still not owned like the slave is. So the nature of the master's authority over them remains different than that over the male slave. That means, when the male slave goes free after the 6th year, so do the wife and children. ChatGPT Wrote:So is this about “mother vs father ownership”? ChatGPT Wrote:Why the father’s status doesn’t determine it I made the mistake of assuming that whatever belongs to the male slave belongs to the master. So if the master owns the slave, then he owns the children as well. The fact that he doesn't own the wife adds a twist to this logic, but it is a moot point anyway because my assumption was incorrect. Slaves can actually own property without that ownership automatically trickling up to the master. And this goes for the slave's "ownership" (if we can call it that) over his children. So if he and his wife bear children during his servitude, those children belong exclusively to their biological parents at all times. ChatGPT Wrote:What this implies about the servant’s possessions/status So if the wife is not owned by the master, this brings up a few more questions. Like: if the wife isn't owned by the master, why can't she just leave at any time? Does she have to take orders from the master? What confines her to the household? But for the sake of not prolonging this thread indefinitely, I will leave those questions unanswered (but feel free to jump in and give your 2 cents anyway). What was the purpose of drilling a hole into the slave's ear with an awl if he refused his freedom in the 7th year? This question doesn't even need to be put to ChatGPT as it hinted at the answer somewhere in the above. Ah, here it is: ChatGPT Wrote:A ritual is performed (ear pierced at the doorpost) In other words, I completely misread Exodus 21:6. I had this image of a huge tool built to drill holes through hard objects and the point was to deliver some kind of torture so as to teach other spectators, including slaves, what happens if you refuse freedom. I imaged the awl being drilled into the poor man's ear drum, through the bone, maybe even piercing the brain. Hey, it wouldn't be the first time in human history the laws were that barbaric! But an ear piercing... that's nothing. My daughter got her ears pierced at 10. I had my ear pierced in my youth. Sure, it hurt, but I wouldn't call it torture. You learn to ignore the pain, and after a short while it goes away. I gather the point of the piercing was to tag the slave as a permanent possession of the master and that it was by the slave's own choice. This is a waaay more practical (and mundane) interpretation than the torture and punishment idea, and explains other things too. Example... I asked in the OP: "Why would it have been so imperative for the slave to leave after 6 years?" Well, it wasn't. This wasn't a punishment to deter slaves from rejecting their freedom, it was just a way of marking the slave as permanent. No biggie. And I asked: "What was the punishment for the slave owner if he refused to let his slave free in the 6th year?" Well, this doesn't answer the question, but it would never have arisen if it weren't for my "torture and punishment" interpretation of this verse. But hey, I was right about the doorpost! And in fact, a public spectacle still makes sense. You'd want everyone to know that this here slave belongs to so-and-so permanently on account of his choosing to stay.It also removes some of the incentive to leave, and makes sense out of the passage about loving the slave's master. If all that will happen by refusing to leave is an ear piercing (and permanent slavery), and the slave has family that he doesn't want to leave, then choosing to remain a slave is no biggie. And this gives the master incentive to treat his slave kindly and with due care. If the slave is that much more willing to stay (because an ear piercing is not much of a deterrent) then the master has an incentive to treat him well during the 6 years. He has to make the slave want to stay, to make him "love his master", so that he continues to serve his master forever. And ChatGPT concurs that the exact wording of "I love my master, my wife, and my children," is not that binding, but rather the free uncoerced willingness to stay is: ChatGPT Wrote:What actually qualifies someone to stay? What is the difference between a male slave and a female maidservant? And how does a maidservant end up a maidservant? Is being sold by her father (or some authority figure in her family) the only way? ChatGPT Wrote:Different Purpose: Marriage vs. Labor ChatGPT Wrote:Was being sold by her father the only way? So the ordinances laid out in Exodus 21:7-11 describe the rules surrounding maidservants when sold by their father. This doesn't mean there are no other avenues down which women could become maidservants. ChatGPT mentions war captives and foreign slaves, but these wouldn't fall under the jurisdiction of Hebrew slaves so the same ordinances wouldn't necessarily apply... unless the mentioning of "Hebrew" slaves in verse 2 applies only to the purchase of male slaves. After all, verse 2 is the opening for the section on male slaves. That it mentions "Hebrew" male slaves may not be an accident. When it gets to female slaves (or maidservants) in verse 7, it reads like this is a whole new section. So do the ordinances on maidservants extend beyond Hebrew women after all? One might think this reasonable if it weren't for verse 7 setting the condition of being sold by her father, who I have to assume would be Hebrew, and thus so would she (though one *could* read it as a father from a foreign land... but that feels like a stretch). Could a women be sold (by her father) into servitude strictly for the purpose of doing work, similar to a male slave, as opposed to marriage and bearing children? According to ChatGPT, which confirms that all these ordinances from verse 2 to verse 11 are about Hebrew slaves/maidservants, the expectation, if sold by her father, is that she was on the path towards marriage and bearing children, and it would be for life. After all, under what other condition would a father, concerned about his daughter's welfare, protection, and livelihood, sell her to someone else to be owned? If he feels there is no other option, it has to be permanent. Society, at the time, had much fewer provisions for woman than it had for men. Therefore, it made more sense to set a male slave free after 6 years (who didn't have a father to whom the master was legally bound) than a maidservant. A father would be far more hesitant to put his daughter into a position where she is to fend for herself after 6 years than one in which she is taken care of for life. So the most adequate and befitting condition under which a father to sell his daughter into servitude would have been for the purposes of marriage and child bearing, which implied permanence, not a limited term. So the law expected marriage and/or child bearing as a condition of being sold by her father, but ChatGPT points out that this doesn't exclude manual labor or house chores and child care (of children who aren't hers) in addition to marriage and child bearing (although I have to say, ChatGPT's choice of "expectation" on the part of the law is ambiguous). In fact, it says that in rare cases, some women can be purchased for the sole purpose of a household "maid" or "babysitter": ChatGPT Wrote:Could a woman serve in non-marital roles? ChatGPT Wrote:Your core question—answered directly But this was not the norm. And it wasn't clear whether these cases existed under the condition of a father selling her into servitude. ChatGPT goes hard on the principle that being sold into servitude by the father really, really, really hinges on the prospect of marriage and child bearing, so in the rare cases where a maidservant is bought solely for the purpose of labor or chores, it could not be a Hebrew maidservant. These situations could only arise for foreign women who were somehow "acquired" to become maidservants. In the case of the wife who comes with the slave, what is her status? ChatGPT makes it clear that she is not "owned" by the master as her husband is, but because she is linked to her husband through marriage, she becomes part of the household, and there are social/traditional rules (not legal per se) that come with being a member of the household. The master is head of the household and has authority over every other member, including the slave's wife. But it's not the kind of authority he would have through ownership, like he has over the slave, but something akin to the authority he has over a daughter or a son (although there are differences here too). So not the fullest freedom one could enjoy in Hebrew society, but more free than the slave. What shackles her is not ownership but social norms and customs that now apply to her via marriage to the slave. ChatGPT Wrote:“She’s part of the household” — ✔️ basically right ChatGPT Wrote:Are there written “household rules”? ChatGPT Wrote:“Can she come and go as she pleases?” — ❌ not really ChatGPT Wrote:our core insight (confirmed) So she's beholden to the master much like a daughter or a wife would be by virtue, not of being the slave's wife, but of now living under the master's household. And couldn't she leave at any time? Well, besides being shunned and outcasted for such offensive unorthodox behavior, women in these times had a much poorer chance of surviving on their own than men (even the salve who is set free after 6 years). So it wasn't exactly the law that kept here confined to the household and the master, and it wasn't ownership, but convention, custom, and tradition. And this answers our question from earlier: could she leave at any time? Well, technically yes, but that would be like social suicide. And did she have to take orders from and obey the master? Well, by tradition, this was expected of anyone living in his household (regardless of slave status or otherwise). Not explicit in the law, but because of convention, custom, and tradition, the law certainly wouldn't come to her aid and protect her if she went against the grain. Now what about his: Exodus 21:8-10 Wrote:8 If she is displeasing to her master, who did not designate her [for himself], then he shall enable her to be redeemed; he shall not rule over her to sell her to another person, when he betrays her. 9 And if he designates her for his son, he shall deal with her according to the law of the daughters [of Israel]. 10 If he takes another [wife] for himself, he shall not diminish her sustenance, her clothing, or her marital relations. These passages really exploded by brain. But here, BibleGateway can definitely help us: BibleGateway.com Wrote:8 If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. 9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. 10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. Overall, this rendition seems to be saying that if the master doesn't like the maidservant, then in the case where the goal was to marry her, he must let her be redeemed (sell her back to her father). That's his only option; he cannot sell her to anyone else (the BibleGateway rendition has "foreigners" whereas chabad just has "person"). In the case where the master's son is to marry/procreate with her, he shall treat her like a daughter. Verse 10 is a bit ambiguous as to which case it applies to. Verse 8 that speaks about the maidservant belonging to the master as wife and/or concubine? Or verse 9 that speaks about the maidservant belonging to the son? If the former, then if the master marries another woman, this would count as a form of polygamy (wouldn't it?). If the latter, then the master's marrying another woman doesn't count a polygamy. In either case, I presume the master still "owns" her but she is put to different purposes. But then, who is responsible for taking care of her needs? In the case where the maidservant marries the son, who is responsible for taking care of her food, clothing, and marital rights? ChatGPT seems pretty certain the responsibility falls on the shoulders of the husband, not necessarily the owner. ChatGPT Wrote:The son does change status in one sense So clearly, in the case where the maidservant marries the son, the son bears the responsibility off taking care of her needs. This becomes particularly obvious when one of the needs is "marital rights", especially since ChatGPT includes "sexual needs" among those rights. It would be awkward, to say the least, if the master had to step in to satisfy her sexually or impregnate her when his son doesn't rise to the task. The only schism that remains is the manner that each verse seems to say diametrically contradicting things. In the Chabad version, it talks about the master NOT designating her for himself, whereas the BibleGateway version talks about the master selecting her for himself. So did he designate/select her for himself or did he not? One simple read of this is to interpret Chabad as saying "who did not designate her [for himself] [yet]" meaning he has not officially married her. BibleGateway, on the other hand, might be interpreted as saying "who intends to marry her but hasn't done so yet". Those two interpretations mean more or less the same thing. Under this reading, the master marrying another woman might not constitute polygamy after all. If he had yet to marry the maidservant, marrying another women could still be monogamous. In either case, it raises the question, what happens if she displeases the master after they get married. Is it too late then? Is it your ordinary universal pattern of husband and wife bickering about the most trivial things and harboring deep resentment because the other just won't listen? As in all marriages, ya just gotta live with it? Was there such a thing as divorce in those times? I can only surmise that what happens between husband and wife, once they are in fact married, is no business of the law's (outside observing her food, clothing, and marital needs, of course). BibleGateway also gives us a bit of insight into what the "laws of the daughters" means. It phrases it "he must grant her the rights of a daughter." This says a couple things: 1) daughters had rights, and 2) if they had rights, there must have been some legal precedent that determined the laws surrounding how the head of the household was to treat his daughters. As a concise way to summing up those laws, the "laws of the daughters" must have been understood at the time as referring to these laws, customs and tradition, and they could not have been that unfamiliar to the average Hebrew. So the confusion is all mine, not scripture's. Consulting ChatGPT, there is no one source in or outside the Torah that serves as the source of truth for what these "laws of the daughters" were, but scattered through many of the Hebrew texts at the time, it was stipulated how to deal with one's daughter under this circumstance or under that, and all together they comprised, in the abstract, the full body of the "laws of the daughters". ChatGPT Wrote:2) What is the “law of the daughters”? What is the condition for the maidservant to go free? Does the master have to fail on all 3 counts: food, clothing, marital rights? Or just 1 out of 3 of these things? ChatGPT says: ChatGPT Wrote:Why “all three” is the weaker reading Which connects with my common sense. ChatGPT Wrote:Bottom line I kinda knew this had to be the answer, but the interpretive distinction occurred to me so I had to ask. Was polygamy commonplace, or at least allowed by law, in the ancient world? ChatGPT Wrote:Yes—polygamy (more precisely, polygyny: one man with multiple wives) was allowed in the ancient Israelite world reflected in the Torah, including the time traditionally associated with Moses. Onto assault and battery... As noted above, Exodus 21:12-14 confused me somewhat. It said: Exodus 21:12-14 Wrote:12 One who strikes a man so that he dies shall surely be put to death. 13 But one who did not stalk [him], but God brought [it] about into his hand, I will make a place for you to which he shall flee. 14 But if a man plots deliberately against his friend to slay him with cunning, [even] from My altar you shall take him to die. As you might recall, I had BibleGateway help me with this, and it made it much clearer: BibleGateway.com Wrote:12 Anyone who strikes a person with a fatal blow is to be put to death. 13 However, if it is not done intentionally, but God lets it happen, they are to flee to a place I will designate. 14 But if anyone schemes and kills someone deliberately, that person is to be taken from my altar and put to death. However, the question still lingered: How exactly does God designate a place to flee? And it occurred to me that this is up to a judge to decide. In other words, the assailant doesn't simply flee as soon as he commits the (accidental) murder, it actually goes through the legal system and a hearing, if not a trial, is had to determine where the assailant is to flee. But this is not what ChatGPT says. ChatGPT tells us that the assailant indeed flees but not to escape the law, but to avoid unbridled revenge or vigilante justice. In fact, he is following the law here. ChatGPT says this: ChatGPT Wrote:How does God “designate a place to flee”? So the assailant chooses for himself out of the cities God designated as refuges and if he's smart, he would do so immediately. ChatGPT Wrote:2) The elders do a preliminary screening So once at the city of refuge, he is given protections but still faces a trial whereby his guilt or innocence is determined. Other ChatGPT conversations (which I will not post here) tell me that once a verdict is rendered, the assailant is escorted to the original city where the legal system there decides the appropriate consequence. Then there's the questions about striking your man- or maidservant with a rod. Does it literally have to be a rod? And if the slave/maidservant dies, the master will be "avenged"... unless of course it takes a few days for the slave/maidservant to die because they are the master's property after all. As you might know, I questioned the logic of this above. I asked, what does "avenged" mean? And why does the timing of death matter? Why is the master only guilty of murder when the death is immediate? And why do his "property rights" (if we may call it that) only come into play when the death is delayed? I posed these questions to ChatGPT: What is the "rod"? ChatGPT Wrote:The Hebrew picture matters here ChatGPT Wrote:So did masters have “slave rods” specially made for beating slaves? This suggests I was partly right--not to the extent that Hebrew masters would go to the local convenient store and buy a standard "slave beating rod", but that in the practice of disciplining or punishing your slave, a master would typically have a tool for that--something like a rod or a stick--he wouldn't just pick up any nearby object and use it. ChatGPT also proposes that "rod" be taken somewhat metaphorically, meaning that because a rod or a stick for disciplining/punishing your slave was commonplace enough, it could be generalized to symbolize whatever it is that a master used to discipline/punish his slave. Why different consequences for different delays in death? ChatGPT Wrote:Why does surviving for a day or two matter? ChatGPT Wrote:Why would that matter legally? So it appears ChatGPT is not even 100% certain as to the reasons behind this law. It uses words like "seems", "probably", and "likely". But if we go with ChatGPT's interpretation, it seems to be an early precursor to "innocent until proven guilty". And even though it mentions intent, what seems more important (to me) is the question: was the death caused by the master's beating. After all, if the slave dies immediately from the master's assault, this still leaves some ambiguity over whether the master meant to kill the slave or not. So intent is not obviously exposed just by the immediacy of the death. But it does seem obvious that the beating caused the death. Therefore, just like some of the related laws above, the consequence of the act rather than the intent is what's important. If the slave dies later, that does cast doubt over the master's intention (if he really wanted him dead, he would have finished the job then and there), but that's more a matter of "some doubt" vs. "more doubt". More importantly, it allows for speculation on other causes entering the picture, causes like infections from the injuries, acts of God, maybe coincidental illnesses happening around the same time, maybe even suicide (who would want to live a life under such a cruel master?). This is a matter of "all or nothing". Either the master killed the slave (as in the case of immediate death) or there is some doubt (as in the case of delayed death). So it seemed quite important to the Hebrews that the master's guilt be proven before prosecutions start. That sounds like "innocent until proven guilty" to me, and it shows how closely aligned their moral compasses already were to ours in modern times. But there's still the curious justification in scripture: "...because he is his property." Does this not conclusively mean that the reason the master gets off the hook in the case of delayed death is that the slave is his property and therefore the master's with which to do as he pleases, not that direct causation cannot be proved? Why are the master's "property rights" only in force in the case of delayed death? Well, according to ChatGPT, there is a slightly different interpretation of this phrase: ChatGPT Wrote:Why does their status as property matter? The key phrase here is "killing his own slave would mean economic loss." In other words, the slave being the master's property is not a justification for the death, but a rationale that casts doubt on the master's intention to kill the slave. So in addition to the question: why wouldn't the master just finish him off then and there, there's also the question of: why would the master destroy his own property and incur economic loss? ChatGPT adds that though this question isn't answered in the case of immediate death, it becomes significantly more clear that the master killed the slave, and therefore it cannot be denied that it is a case of homicide. In other words, despite the irrationality of the decision to destroy one's own property, it is clear that the master did destroy his own property, and thus one must accept it as a brute fact. Note that this reasoning doesn't cast the master's actions in terms of intent, just that the master is clearly guilty of homicide. Intent may bolster the claim that the master caused the slave's death, but it isn't necessary to prove a causal connection. And since a causal connection is the only thing that's established in the case of immediate death, the master, regardless of intent, cannot escape the fact that he caused it, and therefore must be brought to justice. Unfortunately for me, ChatGPT disagrees with my read. While it admits that the causal connection between the master's actions and the immediate death of the slave establishes the master's guilt (regardless of the intent), it claims this is not a case of "innocent until proven guilty", but rather a way to categorize crimes according to their severity. The immediate death of the slave upon being beaten by the master is a clear case of homicide and therefore must be prosecuted as such. But if it takes the slave a day or two (or more?) to die, that counts as "less" severe than homicide (I guess) and in fact let's the master off the hook entirely. So it is simply placing limits on what is punishable and what is not in the case of a master beating/killing his slave. While this ordinance certainly does what ChatGPT says (it creates different categories of punishment--really all or nothing--based on severity), I still feel there is more to it than this. The wording of verses 20 and 21 seem geared towards 1) establishing a causal connection, and 2) casting doubt on intention. And it ultimately seems to funnel down to the master's (lack of) guilt. In the case of delayed death, both the causal connection and the intent are less clear. The slave could have died from other complication, other causes, thereby undermining the master as the main cause, and at the same time, it makes no sense that the master would have intended the death because 1) he could have just finished him off at the time of the beating, and 2) while the master might see a purpose in beating the slave (punishing him for a wrong doing), what could possibly be the purpose of killing him when that would count as an economic loss to the master? But in the case of immediate death, the causal connection is undeniable, and the intent, while still unclear, at least doesn't raise the question of why the master wouldn't just finish him off, for he does finish him off. That leaves only the question of why the master would want to incur economic loss, so the elimination of the former question doesn't quite establish intent (or the lack thereof) but reducing it to only one question makes it less doubtful. Nonetheless, the bare minimum required to establish guilt is the causal connection, which immediate death surely establishes. And since the master may still have caused, and intended, the death even when it is delayed, in which case one would think that too is enough (if it could be proven) to convict him of murder, the level of doubt this case raises prevents anyone from being able to establish his guilt, which is why, I maintain, the master gets off the hook. In other words, it is the inability to prove guilt that justifies a "not guilty" verdict. This is essentially "innocent until proven guilty", even if that was not the intent of the law. So while I agree with ChatGPT that "innocent until proven guilt" is a concept that arises much later in history, verse 20 and 21 plant a seed that, in my opinion, at least takes the shape of "innocent until proven guilty" and eventually blooms into the actual principle that we recognize today. Why do verses 24 and 25 go on about an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth... when the scenario under consideration is that of a fatality, and a life for a life would have sufficed? Before getting to the heart of this question, I feel it is important to highlight that there are two prominent interpretations of verse 22 according to ChatGPT: ChatGPT Wrote:View A (very common in older readings) Chabad is obviously following View A as it explicitly says "miscarriage" but if "the children come out" is an alternative reading, that is noteworthy as well. Now as to the reading of "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth..." ChatGPT simply chalks it up to a mistranslation of ason. Chabad translates it as "fatality" but the full meaning is "serious harm" (which can mean fatality but other forms of harm as well). You see, the passage is problematic when it begins with "But if there is a fatality..." because the grammar is structured such that everything that follows is relevant in the case of fatalities. So if a man kills the woman (or the child according to View B), and in the process knocks out one of her teeth, he is not only to be put to death but one of his teeth knocked out. According to ChatGPT, that's silly. But if we interpret ason as serious harm, then the list (the lex talionis according to ChatGPT) is simply a series of case-by-case examples. If the harm is to a tooth, the the same harm is to be leveled against the assailant. If the harm is to an eye, then the same for the assailant. It needn't accompany death. Is there anything to verse 24 listing unrecoverable injuries and verse 25 listing recoverable injuries? According to ChatGPT, not really, but it likely isn't accidental either. ChatGPT suggests these two verses are simply listing injuries from the most severe to the least severe (where death is treated as the most severe "injury"). Now one could quibble over whether the loss of an eye is truly more severe than the loss of a tooth, or a wound is truly more severe than a bruise, but it seems reasonable to me that the injuries listed in verse 24 are less severe than death, and the injuries listed in verse 25 are less severe than those listed in verse 24. So the ordering of most severe to least severe on an item-by-item basis may be partly the opinion of the author, but on a verse-by-verse basis, the ordering seems more universal or easy to agree with. I think everybody can agree that the differences in severity between the items listed in verse 24 are, if not a purely subjective matter, then at least a matter of opinion (by and large). And similarly with the items listed in verse 25. But I also think everyone will agree that death is more severe than losing a limb or some bodily appendage, and that both are more severe than a bruise or a cut from which one will surely recover. Does the entire lex talionis apply to masters causing injuring to his slave, except put in terms of injury for freedom? The text could be read two ways: 1) since it only explicitly mentions an eye for freedom and a tooth for freedoms, that defines the limits of this law. In other words, loss of a hand or foot, or injuries like burns, wounds and bruises, don't count since they aren't listed. On the other hand, this could be read as 2) short hand for the entire lex talionis (the author didn't want to repeat the entire list so didn't). Or there's my "in-between" interpretation, that a hand for freedom and a foot for freedom is implied but burns, wounds, and bruises don't because one must expect burns, wounds, and bruises from the occasional punitive/disciplinary beating that slaves got from their masters. When consulting ChatGPT, it generally agreed with me that burns, wounds, and bruises don't qualify for the slave's emancipation... ChatGPT Wrote:So what line is the law drawing? But ChatGPT went even further and suggested the omission of hands and feet was purposeful as well--that is, eyes and teeth can be treated as a different legal category than hands and feet--at least in the case of masters and slaves--but why? Well, it comes down to ambiguity. What does a lost "hand" or a lost "foot" mean? Does it mean a literally severed hand or foot, or does it mean a damaged hand or foot that is beyond recovery or repair such that the person can no longer use it (thus he "lost" it). And if it's a damaged hand or foot, how does one tell if it's permanent or not? Will it heal in time? And how long would we have to wait to see? These questions do not arise for damaged eyes or teeth. A damage eye is a lost eye (they don't readily heal). A damaged tooth is a lost tooth (they don't grow back). I questioned ChatGPT on this logic for a few rounds. I'll spare you the minutia, but I will give you my final interpretation that I gathered from ChatGPT, and assure you that ChatGPT agreed that I had it right: gib65 Wrote:So let me put this in my own words. In the case of the two free men, it's not hard to implement the principle of "whatever he did to you, the same shall be done unto him". Whereas in the case of the master injuring his slave, because the crime and the punishment aren't as clearly symmetrical, or mirror images of each other, (an eye for freedom, a tooth for freedom), it's only clear what to do in those two cases (eye and tooth)--and I suppose everyone at the time could agree that a lost eye or a lost tooth was a reasonable equivalent to gaining freedom--but because the crime and the punishment are so different in nature, applying the same principle to other cases like hands and feet only raises controversy and disagreement (ex. confusing over a severed hand or a broken hand--is a broken hand worth granting the slave his freedom or not?). And even though most people at the time would probably consider a severed hand or a severed foot the equivalent to a lost eye or tooth, the text leaves it out because 1) the people's "common sense" (we might call it) in the case of severed limbs is probably "good enough" and 2) it would, like you said, mislead some into interpreting the text as saying broken limbs and similar cases are NOT worth the slave's freedom, and therefore take their abuse up to this level, which goes against the spirit of the ordinances on slavery overall. And... gib65 Wrote:ChatGPT Wrote:Where I’d refine your wording ChatGPT generally agreed with this adding only that except for the law on an eye for freedom and a tooth for freedom, no outcome is guaranteed or clear. One might expect the common sense of the people to recognize the equivalence of the case of a literally severed hand or a literally severed foot to that of an eye or a tooth, but because it isn't explicitly codified in the law, there is no guarantee that this common sense will prevail in every single case. Which is easy to agree with so I give ChatGPT that. RE: Exodus 21 - gib65 - 05-15-2026 Part 2: Why must the bull's flesh not be eaten? And what did the ancient Hebrews think of animal sin? ChatGPT has a definitive answer to this question but it requires wrapping one's head around an obscure concept that may have been basic in ancient times but is lost on us today. ChatGPT calls that concept "contamination" or "defilement". It describes the incident of a bull goring someone to death as causing a disturbance in the social/moral order and is now wrapped up in this disturbance. The bull has become "contaminated" by it, so to speak, and it has become "defiled". We don't really have an equivalent concept today. It's something between being tainted with an impurity or a disease and being sinful for committing a wrong doing. The Hebrews at the time didn't believe that animals were capable of sin in the fullest sense of the word--they didn't blame the bull--but they didn't think the bull was perfectly innocent either. Being contaminated or defiled was like something the bull "incurred" by goring the person to death but it wasn't guilt per se, more like proto-guilt, or whatever guilt would be for a being to whom moral right and wrong doesn't quite apply given its obliviousness to good and evil. ChatGPT Wrote:In the ancient mindset, an act of killing—even accidental—disrupts the moral order of the community. The bull’s death helps restore that balance. ChatGPT Wrote:Do animals bear “sin” in this worldview? ChatGPT Wrote:You’re circling a real feature of the text—but there isn’t a single English word that cleanly captures it. If I had to pick the least misleading option, I’d go with: ChatGPT Wrote:But don’t hear “defiled” as “sinful” ChatGPT Wrote:Why other words fall short ChatGPT Wrote:Bottom line To put it another way, the law here seems to be focused on the community's need for resolution or closure. It serves the same purpose as putting a feral animal down in modern times after it harms or kills someone. Our reasoning is a bit more utilitarian in modern times--we say that the animal has proven itself to be dangerous (and even more so now that it has a taste for blood and likely wants more)--but it fulfills a longing on the part of the community for resolution and closure nonetheless. The ancient Hebrews simply understood it directly--it's not that the animal is guilty in the full (human) sense, but a death has occurred and they need resolution/closure. So the "feelings" towards the animal are--just as today--to regard it as "needing to be dealt with", but unlike today, that reasoning was enough. This puts the animal into a state that demands reconciliation, the only means to satisfy being to treat it as if it were guilty (the community is indeed almost "angry" at the bull), thus the stoning. ChatGPT Wrote:Why the bull is treated “judicially” ChatGPT Wrote:Putting it all together, your understanding becomes: ChatGPT Wrote:Modern framing: ChatGPT Wrote:A tighter version of your comparison In other words, it's about restoring the moral order, not the state of the bull itself or preventing a repeat in the future. I thought "diseased" was a good analogy for contaminated/defiled but ChatGPT cautioned me against it. It didn't say it was a bad analogy, but it cautioned against thinking about this state the animal is in as something "inside" the animal. It's more relational, ChatGPT argued. ChatGPT Wrote:Your analogy is pointing in the right direction, but needs one adjustment: I pressed ChatGPT to account for why the meat must not be eaten. I thought the disease metaphor would explain it: as something contaminated/defiled, it's like it carries a disease that, if consumed, gets transferred to the consumer. I thought this fit perfectly with the scapegoat verses from Leviticus 16, where the sins of the community could be transferred to a goat who is then set free into the wilderness. <-- I thought this meant that the ancient Hebrews believed that sin could be transferred from one being to another (making possible the Christian concept of the ransom), and even though we are not regarding the contaminated/defiled state of the bull as "sinful" in the full sense of the word, I didn't see any reason such a state couldn't, like sin, be transferred to one who consumes the bull's flesh. But ChatGPT clearly distinguished between the two cases: ChatGPT Wrote:Here’s the cleanest way to separate them: So ChatGPT even disagrees that the state of the bull is the same as the state of the goat. The goat is "sinful" (symbolically) whereas the bull is simply "linked to bloodshed" (but still contaminated/defiled). This, by itself, explains why the bull must be put to death--to restore the moral order. Because of the moral disruption in the community, the bull is connected to the death and is therefore contaminated/defiled, and must be dealt with the same way one would an actual murder. This is unlike the scapegoat who literally did nothing but nonetheless carries the sins of the community (and here it's difficult to say if the sins are literally transferred to the goat or, as ChatGPT repeatedly emphasizes, only symbolically, but in either case, what's being transferred is more (or different) than the contaminated/defiled state of the bull). So the idea that such a state--whether that be limited to contamination/defilement as with the bull or entails more like symbolic or literal sinfulness as with the goat--can be transferred to another being (particularly by consuming its flesh) is put into doubt. According to ChatGPT, this law has very little to do with protecting people from contagion (even if they believed this could happen), but to ensure the bull, in it's contaminated/defiled state, was set apart from the laws surrounding food and consumption (because there are plenty of the latter) and isolated into its own category, a category from which no one can benefit or profit. In this category, the bull isn't "ordinary meat"; there are different laws/rules surrounding it, and therefore the usual laws surrounding what can be consumed and what can't don't apply. This prevents normalization of eating the meat (according to ChatGPT), and more importantly, it makes it easier for the main point of the law to be met: ensuring resolution/closure for the community is fulfilled and that moral/legal order is restored. If anyone benefits from the incident, this undermines the whole point of the law. The community can't fully rest if they knew someone had benefitted from the death. ChatGPT Wrote:Bottom line How would verse 29 ever arise (habitually goring bull in which case the owner is put to death) if verse 28 ensures that the bull will be stoned after the first goring? ChatGPT says this could happen if the first goring, or the first several gorings, didn't result in a death. ChatGPT Wrote:So the “first offense” probably wasn’t a death Plain and simple. Why do verses 33-34 talk of bulls and donkeys only? Why can't other animals die from falling into pits? According to ChatGPT, they can, and the same consequences apply. ChatGPT Wrote:The short answer is: the law isn’t excluding other animals; it’s using representative examples (bulls and donkeys) to express a broader rule about valuable livestock. In other words, it’s case law, not an exhaustive list. ChatGPT Wrote:There’s nothing in the logic of the law that would suddenly not apply if a sheep or goat fell in. In fact, elsewhere in the Torah, smaller livestock like sheep and goats are clearly treated as valuable property deserving compensation when harmed. I go into a more lengthy discussion with ChatGPT about how one can tell when the text is simply listing representative examples and when it is literally limiting the principle/rule to only the specific cases listed, but that's a bit outside the scope of this question. You can nonetheless read about it at the links below. These links are the full ChatGPT discussions I pulled from to answer the above questions and post quotes. Note that these discussions often go deeper than what I posted here. I ask follow up questions and go down avenues that aren't explicitly touched upon here, so if this peeks your interest, please visit the links below to explore further. Exodus 21 - Sabbath and Slavery Tension Exodus 21 - Maidservants vs Male Slaves Exodus 21 - Killing Laws Exodus 21 - Bull Flesh Not Eaten Exodus 21 - Biblical Pit Liability Explanation |