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Nephesh, Ruach, and Neshama? - Moriel Fall - 08-31-2019
Nephesh, Ruach, and Neshama:
What's the actual difference? Can someone have one without the other?
A sleeping person is still alive and has their Nephesh, but while unconscious does not have their Neshama. When they die, their Nephesh dies, and their Neshama returns to G-d?
One person suggested that a drugged up or brain damaged person may be alive and conscious, (have their nephesh and neshama), but lack their Ruach because, while they are "awake"... they aren't "themselves."
Is that close? Or do any of them actually translate to a spirit that can live, consciously, outside of the body, like a "ghost?"
RE: Nephesh, Ruach, and Neshama? - Jason - 08-31-2019
Good luck with that one! I think that anyone who claims to have a clear understanding of these things is bluffing. The words are often interchangeable.
RE: Nephesh, Ruach, and Neshama? - House of Jacob - 08-31-2019
(08-31-2019, 03:42 AM)Moriel Fall Wrote: Nephesh, Ruach, and Neshama:
What's the actual difference? Can someone have one without the other?
A sleeping person is still alive and has their Nephesh, but while unconscious does not have their Neshama. When they die, their Nephesh dies, and their Neshama returns to G-d?
One person suggested that a drugged up or brain damaged person may be alive and conscious, (have their nephesh and neshama), but lack their Ruach because, while they are "awake"... they aren't "themselves."
Is that close? Or do any of them actually translate to a spirit that can live, consciously, outside of the body, like a "ghost?"
May I ask , where is it stated that the Nishama dies? If the Nishama dies after ones' death then how is gilgul possible?
RE: Nephesh, Ruach, and Neshama? - RabbiO - 09-01-2019
(08-31-2019, 11:44 PM)House of Jacob Wrote: May I ask , where is it stated that the Nishama dies? If the Nishama dies after ones' death then how is gilgul possible?
You’re assuming the reality of gilgul.
RE: Nephesh, Ruach, and Neshama? - Jason - 09-04-2019
I think that most Israelis at least believe in gilgul neshamot. It's an extremely common concept in Israel, to the point that most people think it's a basic teaching of Judaism.
RE: Nephesh, Ruach, and Neshama? - Jason - 10-08-2020
These words did not have clear definitions when they emerged in Hebrew speech. I don't think it's useful to give them definitions beyond what the people have used them for.