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In regard toa Jewish persons actions... - LAsttime - 03-03-2022 on 1 MArch 2022 I sent the following query to ASk A Rabbi Aish Torah.com When a Jewish Person does any action at all-does it reflect not just on himself, but also on all Jews everywhere and the L-D as well? Two examples: Would a good example be if a Jewish person on learning that a community of galat Jews are in physical danger yet refuse to leave--he prays that the L-D give the community in danger the understanding that they must flee galat and Go up to israel to live as Jews? Would a bad example be if a Jewish person does cold cruel action on another Jewish person and refusing to show either remorse or repentence brings shame not only to himself but also to Jews everywhere to the notice of the L-D? Wh On 2 March 2022 I received an answear: Dear Thank you for reaching out to us. This is a very astute and complex question you raise. We do believe that all Jews are responsible for one another and are connected to the point that one's actions do reflect on the community and people on the whole, both for good and bad. Just as a family member can bring honor or shame to their family through their actions, soo to with the Jewish people. That being said, it is important that when transferring judgement from an individual to the community as a whole, that does not become an excuse or free pass to judge others in a certain way. The bottom line is that we should always strive to judge individuals and communities with positivity and the benefit of the doubt. With blessings from Jerusalem, Rabbi Yoni Miller Aish.com --------------- Examples of a Persons choices so they can be read and reflected on the consequences of their actions: Dec 7, 1938 Ben Gurion in the aftermath of Krystilnight Pogram {England offer to accept 10,000 Jewish Children in Germany to England] If I knew it was possible to save all the children in Germany by taking them to England, and only half of the children by taking them to Eretz Israel, I would choose the second solution. For we must take into account not only the lives of these children but also the history of the people of Israel." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemenite_Children_Affair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amnon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absalom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahithophel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rezs%C5%91_Kasztner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaim_Rumkowski Poster {#21} Alexander Cohen https://historycollection.com/wanted-ads-americas-worst-criminals/?msclkid=ac053aafb23011ecbc78438e3fdf01d6 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Levine_(mobster) https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/216999247/al-silverberg https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/7707244/abraham-weinberg RE: In regard toa Jewish persons actions... - RabbiO - 03-04-2022 I’m going to ask you the same question I’ve asked you before. This time I would appreciate an honest answer to my question. I am not asking whether you are of Jewish descent, I am not asking whether you identify as a a Jew. I am plain and simply asking if under the criteria of any of the movements within Judaism you are recognized as being a Jew by all or any of them. RE: In regard toa Jewish persons actions... - Alan_Boskov - 03-04-2022 (03-03-2022, 10:41 PM)LAsttime Wrote: ...Would a bad example be if a Jewish person does cold cruel action on another Jewish person and refusing to show either remorse or repentence brings shame not only to himself but also to Jews everywhere to the notice of the L-D?...When a Jewish person transgresses against anothe Jewish person, the issue remains within the Jewish community itself, unless the transgression enters a serious legal realm of the country of which the transgression has taken place. in other words, if that transgressing Jewish person has been caught in bed with the wife of another Jewish person or has performed petty theft, this event is to be resolved between both parties, without needing to draw in the police. In extreme cases where murder is involved, that becomes an unavoidable legal matter. Much more important is the question of transgressions of which are so open to public view that these actions could bring shame to an entire community or to an entire ethnicity. Transgressions at such a level involve transgressions by an individual of one certain group taken against a person or persons of a different group of which is the root of prejudice against an entire group, if similar transgressions tend to repeat themselves. Without needing to be specific, one only has to examine statistics relating certain crimes to the incarceration statistics of which apply to any certain group. Of utmost importance, here in this forum, is to debate the amount of shame of which the Law of Return legislation applied by a secular state can endanger the reputation of an entire group, if abused for protecting criminals from extradition to the foreign countries to where those crimes were commited, unless, of course, that country of which the alleged transgression was to have taken place is known for arbitrary judicial practices and/or unusually extreme punishment. If that certain secular state were to return to a religiously-based one, where would the line get drawn, concerning international transgression issues and their incurring extraditional practices ![]() RE: In regard toa Jewish persons actions... - LAsttime - 03-04-2022 No I am not Jewish RE: In regard toa Jewish persons actions... - Alan_Boskov - 03-05-2022 Nobody's perfect ![]() ![]() ![]() |