07-29-2020, 10:22 PM
(07-27-2020, 02:43 AM)Jason Wrote: It's a good line of questioning, George. You should pursue it further.
(07-29-2020, 08:51 PM)Jason Wrote: I didn't say "prevent people from sinning willingly." No. I said specifically that he would place limitations on man's "free will" or how it affects someone else.
Let's take it this way: God doesn't have to take away the freedom to eat bacon in violation of the Torah. He doesn't have to take away the freedom to steal someone's purse or telephone. He doesn't have to take away the freedom to defraud you neighbor financially.
However, can he not limit man's freedom to the point that rape and torture is beyond man's potential? Does man have to be free to the point that he can lock someone in a basement, pull out his fingernails one at a time, chain him to a wall, maul his genitalia, cut chunks from his flesh to boil and eat, etc.?? Does man need to have THAT level of freedom in order to be declared good or evil?
This is a huge problem for me. A huge problem. And saying "free will" doesn't overcome this level of evil.
I didn't know this was a huge problem for you.
Doesn't it boil down to we know what is wrong without God telling us what is wrong.
Doesn't this amount to loving your neighbor as yourself?
Don't do anything to anyone else that you wouldn't want done to you?