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Israel: Israeli–Palestinian conflict Solution!
#1
What do you all think about inter-mixing and marrying our Palestinian neighbors?
Surely this peaceful solution could be an amazing path to peace. Thoughts?
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#2
Hello Ari and welcome to the forum.

Just to let you know, the first 3 posts are moderated to help keep out spam and bots.

In my opinion, what will bring peace is mutual respect for each other.
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#3
Intermarriage only causes the loss of Jews and damage to Judaism. I am all for trying to negotiate peace with them, but as SMR said mutual respect is required. So far I don't think that has happened.
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#4
Personally, I think it's an entirely individual, interpersonal decision. And while it can certainly help to bring about mutual respect on an incremental scale, because it must be an individual, interpersonal decision, it can only be a small part of resolving much larger issues.
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#5
The L-d said not to intermarry Jewish daugthers with non-jews and Jewish sons with non-jewish women....
https://www.aish.com/atr/?llc=907764
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_c...rriage.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interfaith...in_Judaism
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#6
Inter mixing is not in the best interest of the kids! I myself am the son of a dutch father and a german-born mother who was member of the BDM and I advise against it.
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(04-13-2021, 05:50 PM)ctjacobs Wrote: Inter mixing is not in the best interest of the kids! I myself am the son of a dutch father and a german-born mother who was member of the BDM and I advise against it.

Sophie Scholl also was in the BDM in her early years. Later she stood up against the regime boldly.

Do you live here in Europe, too?
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(04-14-2021, 06:28 AM)Blue Bird Wrote: Do you live here in Europe, too?

Yes, Netherlands.
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#9
Asker Ari inquires if intermarriage with the Palestinian Arabs could be a solution to the Arab / Israeli dispute over the land of Israel.

Marriage with another whose religion is different is not a problem if there is mutual respect for each other's religions, however the majority of Arabs are fervently Muslim and while there is nothing wrong with that, it also means an intolerance for differing religious beliefs.

Because most "Palestinian" Arabs are taught by the Palestinian education system to hate Jews (below), this rather implies that widespread intermarriage is unlikely and also, not in the best interest of such a couple.

Further, while the "Palestinian" Arabs hoodwink the world they seek a two-state solution, to their own people they claim the whole of the land of Israel. 
Their policy is to take the land of Israel and expel or murder the Jews, for example the expulsion of the Jews from East Jerusalem in 1948.

The "Palestinian" Arabs are taught by the Palestinian education system to hate Jews, and claim all the land of Israel:
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Post from Mark L. Levinson:
 
Here is part of a report [“PA education: A recipe for hate and terror”,
Jul 21, 2015 (previously: “PA Education Report for Teachers Union 210715”)] from Palestinian Media Watch:
https://www.palwatch.org/page/8399
  
Fighting Israel until liberation is a religious battle for Islam
 
The PA [Palestinian Authority] schoolbooks present fighting against Israel as mandatory in the name of Islam. The books teach that the conflict with Israel is “Ribat for Allah” which is defined as “one of the actions related to Jihad for Allah, and it means: Being found in areas where there is a struggle between Muslims and their enemies.” [Islamic Education, grade 12, p. 86].
Israel cannot be recognized in peace because it is said to exist on Islamic land. The conflict with Israel is described as “one of the greatest of the Ribat, and they [Palestinians] are worthy of a great reward from Allah”. [Ibid, pp.86- 87.]
Finally, the children are taught that they can never make peace with Israel, as this battle is eternal: “The residents of Al-Shaam in general, and Palestine in particular, are in Ribat until Resurrection Day.” [Islamic Education, Grade 12, p. 87.]
 
This religious directive to fight Israel is also expressed in a schoolbook published by the PA Ministry of Religious Affairs. This excerpt also demonizes Jews by calling them “the robbing Jews”:
 
“Today the Muslim countries urgently need Jihad and Jihad fighters in order to liberate the robbed lands and to get rid of the robbing Jews from the robbed lands in Palestine and in the Levant” [Religious Issues, Grade 8 ,p. 12, no date, issued by the Ministry of Religious and WAQF Affairs of the Palestinian Authority, translated by Institute for Monitoring Peace and Cultural Tolerance in School Education]
 
Accordingly, Palestinian violence against Israel since Israel’s founding in 1948 is defined as: “resistance ... acts of most glorious heroism.” [Arabic Language, Analysis, Literature and Commentary, Grade 12 p. 105]
 
Terminology of Disdain
 
The terminology and lessons regarding Israel that PA educators have chosen to include in the schoolbooks reinforce the message that youth should not accept Israel as a neighbor with a right to exist. The following are examples of phrases describing Israel:
 
• ”The Zionist enemy;” [Arabic Language, Analysis, Literature and Criticism, Grade 12, p. 122]
 
• ”The Zionist entity;” [Arabic Language, Analysis, Literature and Criticism, Grade 12, p. 104]
 
• ”The enemy of this people;” [Arabic Language, Analysis, Literature and Criticism, Grade 12, p. 17]
 
• ”The Zionist gangs;” [Arabic Language, Analysis, Literature and Criticism, Grade 12, p. 104]
 
• ”Zionist Imperialist plan.” [Arabic Language, Analysis, Literature and Criticism, Grade 12, p. 103]
 
• ”Your enemies killed your children, split open your women’s bellies, held your revered elderly men by the beard, and led them to the death pits.” [Reading and Texts, Grade 8, Part 2, [2003] (reprinted 2007), p. 16, translated by Institute for Monitoring Peace and Cultural Tolerance in School Education]
 
• ”By your life! How is it that snakes invade us and we [still] observe a protection covenant [dhimma] which respects commitments?” [Arabic Language—Linguistic Sciences, Grade 12, (2010), p.61, translated by Institute for Monitoring Peace and Cultural Tolerance in School Education]
 
A world without Israel - Israel does not exist at all
 
Aside from the hate and violence promotion and the denial of Israel’s right to exist, the schoolbooks already present a world in which Israel does not exist. “Palestine” today is said to be a “state” (Arabic – “Dawla” = state) with water access in both the Mediterranean and the Red Seas, a situation possible only if Israel does not exist. [Physical Geography and Human Geography, Grade 12, p. 105]
Likewise, the size of the “state” of “Palestine” is said to be more than 10,000 sq. km., which is the figure for the area only if Israel does not exist, as the full West Bank and Gaza Strip total only 6220 sq. km. [Physical Geography and Human Geography, Grade 12, p. 107]
Since “Palestine” is defined as encompassing all of Israel, the implicit promise is that Israel eventually will no longer exist: “Palestine will be liberated by its men, its women, its young, and its elderly” [Arabic Language and the Science of Language, Grade 12, p. 44].
 
Written Jan 25, 2016
 
Extract from post by a contributor from another website - Source:
https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-exam...nal-system
 
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European Parliament 2019 discharge resolution condemns Palestinian education for teaching hatred:
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[Major heading:] “9. European Parliament resolution of 29 April 2021 with observations forming an integral part of the decisions on discharge in respect of the implementation of the general budget of the European Union for the financial year 2019, Section III – Commission and executive agencies (2020/2140(DEC))
 
[...]
 
“444.  Is concerned about the hate speech and violence taught in Palestinian school textbooks and used in schools by UNRWA [“United Nations Relief and Works Agency”]; is concerned about the effectiveness of UNRWA’s mechanisms of adherence to UN [“United Nations”] values in educational materials used and taught by UNRWA staff in its schools, which contain hate speech and incitement to violence; insists that UNRWA acts in full transparency and publishes in an open-source platform all its educational materials for teachers and students, as well as its reviews of host country textbooks used to ensure that content adheres to UN values and does not encourage hatred; requests that all school material, which is not in compliance with these standards be removed immediately; insists that the earmarking of EU [“European Union”] funding such as PEGASE
[“PEGASE” - French acronym for: Mécanisme, “Palestino - Européen de Gestion et d'Aide Socio-Economique” (Palestinian-European, Socio-Economic Management and Assistance Mechanism: (https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/...ase_en.pdf)]
for salaries paid to teachers and public servants in the education sector must be made conditional on educational material and course content complying with UNESCO [“United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization”] standards of peace, tolerance, coexistence, and non-violence, as was decided upon by Union [“European Union”] education ministers in Paris on 17 March 2015;”
[...]
 
Extract source:
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-9-2021-0164_EN.html

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The reader may also find the analysis on the following webpage interesting:
http://www.thetower.org/article/the-pale...ok-fiasco/
 

Violence, Demonizing, militancy-indoctrination, and degradation of Women, in the Palestinian Curriculum:
“WASATIA Education - Exploring the Palestinian Curriculum” - Professor Mohammed S. Dajani Daoudi: “WASATIA-IMPACT-Booklet_Digital-Format-A5.pdf”:
http://www.impact-se.org/wp-content/uplo...mat-A5.pdf
 

In order to have the best possibility for peace there would need to be: The removal of hate and prejudice against Israel and in particular against Jewish people from the “Palestinian” Arab education system, which could eventually lead to significantly less hate by "Palestinian" Arabs against Israel and Jewish people, with more willingness to sincerely negotiate a trustworthy peace treaty providing for a two state solution.

For the purposes for making any successful sincere negotiations possible, any parties in conflict in the world may need to consider: psychologically blocking-off grievances of the past, while building-in negotiations for sufficient security for both sides, with one intention - to make a present and future free of conflict for future generations of both sides.

The “Palestinian” Arabs would need to be willing to develop away from their current conflict-mindset, and also away from their addiction to ethnic-hatred of Jewish people.

The Palestinian Education Authority in the Palestinian Territories teaches Holocaust-Denial and admiration of the Nazis: 
https://palwatch.org/page/4641

Image: “Palestinian protesters carry a transparent kite defaced with a swastika during clashes with Israeli forces across the [Gaza] border today [web page dated April 20, 2018] - [AFP/Getty Images].”: 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ot-at.html

16 year old in love Jewish Israeli boy Ophir Rakhum lured to his death by “Palestinian” Arabs: 
https://abcnews.go.com/International/sto...660&page=1
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(04-11-2021, 07:51 PM)Nooone Wrote: The L-d said not to intermarry Jewish daugthers with non-jews and Jewish sons with non-jews....
This is the best policy, IMHO. Intermarriage, in general, weakens a society's identity.

Robrecht Wrote:Personally, I think it's an entirely individual, interpersonal decision...
Of course, participants in such relations have rights pertaining. However, this is the purpose of having Melting Pot countries. Such trends taking place in societies evolved through identity will only serve to weaken those societies, as we are currently witnessing happening in Western countries.
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