(11-24-2020, 08:11 PM)searchinmyroots Wrote: [ -> ]Completed,
No, I'm not missing the point. You cannot use Christian scripture to prove the Hebrew bible.
The Hebrew word for salvation that is written in the Hebrew bible has nothing to do with sin. I don't really care what the Christian bible thinks it means.
No, you do not know for a fact that the Book of Matthew was written in Hebrew, that is pure speculation. And if I'm correct, some actually say it was Aramaic. Yep, I agree, no point in debating that.
I see you really do not understand "Biblical Judaism and Rabbinical Judaism". What makes you think Rabbinical Judaism is "put above the Hebrew bible"?
I know you believe the Hebrew scriptures easily point to a divine messiah and you are entitled to your opinion. That doesn't make it true though. Show me a verse that clearly states the messiah will be divine.
And there you go again talking about these ancient rabbi's who said the messiah will be divine. I've asked you to please show us references to where that is written.
Yes I know Salvation is not directed towards sin, but it is directed towards *Saving, that's the point of the pun. From Thier sins.. is secondary within that word pun. The Brit hadasha is A Jewish book, whats gotta be seperated is How the Christains used it historically..compared to what the real Message is... from Yeshua and His Jewish Disciples.
Only some people put it above the Hebrew scriptures, based on the verse, Torah is not in heaven, that we should say who will go up and get it? (paraphrasing)..some believe the commands are not in heaven bc the Rabbis went up to heaven and brought them down for us....in essence, in some views, the rabbinic writings represent a continuation of Torah,and hold the same and even higher validity.
Rabbi Moshe Botarel explains in his commentary to
Sefer Hayetzirah that the Spirit that was Hovering over the earth, was the Ruach haKodesh. Rabbi Yehuda tells us in his commentary to
Sefer Hayetzirah that G-d spoke with Devar Elohim or The Mimra, (the same name Yeshua is called in John 1)
In Genesis Rabbah(commentary on the book of Genesis) the Rabbis understood the Spirit is none other than the Spirit of the Messiah.-Genesis Rabbah 1:2..
The Jerusalem Zohar, explains Why The authors believe that G-d is triune they point out that the name Elohim is made up of two Hebrew words El (G-d)and Hem(they) therefore, they conclude G-d is manifested as a compound unity.
The idea of Binah who is the "Son of El," can be seen beautifully in Mishlei 30:1-4
"Who hath established all the ends of the earth?what is His name and what is His Sons name,if thou knowest?" Rashi tried to argue that this speaks of Moses, but Rav. Y.G Ben Avraham identifies several reasons to reject these claims, in addition he raises the point that the term "Son of El" is also mentioned in Daniel 3,25...
I have to dig up these commentaries from Rabbis by hand but believe me there is 1000s and I have access to 100s, I'll share more as I find them.
And Daniel 7:13 seems to show A divine Messiah as well.