Israel France, Canada, Germany, and the United Kingdom, indicate will recognize "Palestine"

[Robert]

France, Canada, Germany, and the United Kingdom, indicate that they will recognize "Palestine". 

This will have no practical significance and most countries recognize "Palestine", anyway:

'As of March 2025, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 147 of the 193 member states of the United Nations [...]'.

Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internatio..._Palestine

Recognition of "Palestine" is alleged to be linked to a two-state solution. 
Firstly, there is no legal or historical justification for the "Palestinian" Arabs' claim to any part of the land of Israel. 
Secondly, a proto two-state solution experiment has already been tested in the Oslo Accords where the "Palestinian" Arabs were granted autonomy of the whole of Gaza and about 40% of Judah and Samaria ("West Bank, the"). 
This resulted in terrorism by Fatah (aka "Palestinian Authority, the"), in the "Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund" the "pay for slay" reward pension for acts of terrorism against Israeli Jewish civilians including children. 
It also resulted in thousands of rockets being fired at Israeli cities from Gaza, and in the October 7th, 2023 massacre by "Palestinian" Arabs from Gaza upon Israeli Jewish civilians. 
Thirdly, the "Palestinian" Arabs do not believe or want a two-state solution. Their objective is to murder or expel all the Jews from the Jewish people's ancestral-homeland of Israel, and to take ALL the land. 
Their use of the name "Palestine" can consistently be seen as seeking to negate the name and the country of Israel. 
The "Palestinian" Arabs claim ALL the land of Israel, with zero historical or legal justification.

There is no justification for any "Palestinian" Arab state in the land of Israel, and we have seen what the "Palestinian" Arabs did with their autonomy.
The so called "two-state solution" is dead. In reality it constitutes a desire for the destruction of Israel.


The support by countries for recognizing "Palestine" is said to be the current circumstances in Gaza. Israel must be the only country in history where there are demands on it to feed its enemy, an enemy which seeks to grip the remaining Israeli hostages rather than once more be allowed to resume perpetually sponging-off the international community for food aid.

Therefore let's take a brief look at the real reasons why the above countries are making demands on Israel and are intending to recognize "Palestine".

Why does Ireland (the Republic of Ireland) and more specifically most Irish people, support the "Palestinian" Arabs?
The reason is said to be that the Irish compare the Israelis with the colonial British, having regard to Irish political history: 
https://www.npr.org/2024/03/14/123339583...alestinian
However, the predominate religion in Ireland is Catholicism and Catholics know perfectly well from the Bible that the land of Israel is the ancestral-homeland of the Jewish people. 
Therefore something does not make logical sense in the Irish preference for the "Palestinian" Arabs! 
How then do we explain this: It is anti-Jewish prejudice; anti-Semitism, which appears to work like this: If it has become unfashionable to kick the Jew, then kick the Jews' country Israel. 

What about other anti-Israel countries such as Spain, and Sweden which is seeking that the E.U. suspend its trade agreement with Israel, and the countries currently indicating they will recognize "Palestine"?

Spain:
'The proportion of Muslims in Spain is estimated to be around 4.45% to 5.32% of the total population.'
(Google AI Overview.)

Sweden:
'The Muslim population in Sweden is estimated to be around 8% [...]'.
(Google AI Overview.)


Now the countries currently indicating they intend to recognize "Palestine":

France:
'In France, Muslims represent approximately 10% of the population. [...]'.
(Google AI Overview.)

UK:
'In 2021, Muslims comprised 6.5% of the population in England and Wales, according to the UK Census. [...]'.
(Google AI Overview.)

Germany:
'In Germany, Muslims constitute approximately 6.4% to 6.7% of the total population. [...]'.
(Google AI Overview.)

Canada:
'In Canada, the proportion of the population identifying as Muslim has more than doubled in the last two decades. It rose from 2.0% in 2001 to 4.9% in 2021. [...]'.
(Google AI Overview.)

For the political party or coalition in power in these countries, such a population constitutes a gold mine for new votes, and what better way to obtain more votes from it, than by supporting the "Palestinian" Arabs baseless-claims to the land of Israel. 
While tapping-in to that rich-vein of votes by the simple means of supporting Israel's enemies, these countries can also at the same time, conveniently massage their institutionalized anti-Semitism.

[Robert]

This refers to my previous post on this thread. Please see the additional attachment which I was unable to add to my first post.

[COmentator]

soon all europe with recognie Palestine and derecognie Israel

do what else is new?

[pascal_spare]

For what these countries will recognize Palestine? in the topic the increase number of Muslims in these countries, do these countries change their Christian religion or their civil and law systems?! I think these countries are walking to a backward deed.

[RabbiO]

For what these countries will recognize Palestine? in the topic the increase number of Muslims in these countries, do these countries change their Christian religion or their civil and law systems?! I think these countries are walking to a backward deed.

You're beginning to sound like a first class xenophobic hate monger.

What else would you like us to know about you?

[pascal_spare]

For what these countries will recognize Palestine? in the topic the increase number of Muslims in these countries, do these countries change their Christian religion or their civil and law systems?! I think these countries are walking to a backward deed.

You're beginning to sound like a first class xenophobic hate monger.

What else would you like us to know about you?

of course I'm not a beast and have feelings, all what I meant to show the just opinion not the hate, so you can consider it personal opinion that I'm not agree with these countries.

[RabbiO]

I think a major source of confusion is your reatively poor command of English.

[pascal_spare]

I think a major source of confusion is your reatively poor command of English.

I think you return the disagreement in the opinion to the language, but I admit that I'm intermediate English talker, but really what I got from the topic make some consequences in my understanding to the topic if it become real in the ground of reality, that I'm alone and think and analyze matters and news alone, for my bad luck I've no company yet.

[COmentator]

Even when G-d uses other nations to carry out judgement on Israel for its own disobedience; He still holds those nations accountable for their excessive anger, cruelty, and for overstepping their intended role.

In contemporary rabbanic and Jewish theological discussuins, those ancient texts [Genesis 12:3; Joel 3:2 ; Zechariah 2:8; Proverbs 14:34; Ezekiel 25:28] are often applied to modern political actions:
*The slogan "From the River to the Sea": Many Jewish organizations and religious figures consider the slogan "From the river to the sea Palestine will be free" to be antisemitic and a call for the destruction of the State of Israel. From This perspective, nations that permit  the use of this slogan in certain contexts, or fail to condem it, could be seen through the lens of thoose who "curse" or orppress" Israel, potentially incurring divine disfavor or judgement according to specific interpretations of the prophetic texts.
*Recognizing a Palestine State:The division of the land is a sentative issue rooted in the biblical concept that the land belongs to G-d and was given to the Jewish people as an inheritance. Actions by nations to unilaterally  recognize a Palestine state in the entirety of the territory from the river to the sea, or without a negotiated settlemnt that ensures Israel's existance and security, can be interpreted by some religious viewpoints as "dividing up My land." This would fall under the category of actions for which G-d will "enter into judgement" with the nations.

[Robert]

Even when G-d uses other nations to carry out judgement on Israel for its own disobedience; He still holds those nations accountable for their excessive anger, cruelty, and for overstepping their intended role.

In contemporary rabbanic and Jewish theological discussuins, those ancient texts [Genesis 12:3; Joel 3:2 ; Zechariah 2:8; Proverbs 14:34; Ezekiel 25:28] are often applied to modern political actions:
*The slogan "From the River to the Sea": Many Jewish organizations and religious figures consider the slogan "From the river to the sea Palestine will be free" to be antisemitic and a call for the destruction of the State of Israel. From This perspective, nations that permit  the use of this slogan in certain contexts, or fail to condem it, could be seen through the lens of thoose who "curse" or orppress" Israel, potentially incurring divine disfavor or judgement according to specific interpretations of the prophetic texts.
*Recognizing a Palestine State:The division of the land is a sentative issue rooted in the biblical concept that the land belongs to G-d and was given to the Jewish people as an inheritance. Actions by nations to unilaterally  recognize a Palestine state in the entirety of the territory from the river to the sea, or without a negotiated settlemnt that ensures Israel's existance and security, can be interpreted by some religious viewpoints as "dividing up My land." This would fall under the category of actions for which G-d will "enter into judgement" with the nations.

Recently, on "France 24 English" one of their presenters stated that Israel had been created 'in Palestine'. 
That is factually wrong. 
“Palestine” is the Roman-imposed rename of Israel / Judah, used by the Romans for attempting to negate Israel as the name for the land, and today used likewise by the “Palestinian” Arabs and their primarily anti-Semitic supporters.  
The name “Palestine” applied only to foreign rule of the land of Israel, first by the Romans who imposed that name to negate Israel / Judah as names for the land, and later for the Mandate awarded to Great Britain between 1922 and 1948. The Romans had resurrected the name “Palestine” (Philistine) from the region much smaller than Israel, in which (by Roman times the defunct) Philistines had been. Both of those usages of the name were rule by a foreign imperial power. There has never been any indigenous “Palestine” / Arab sovereign state in the land of Israel. Neither is the name “Palestine” any valid geographical name; a correct geographical name for the region is “Levant”. 
There's no "P" in Arabic, so in Arabic the name "Palestine" is "Philistine"; the name simply means "Philistine" which refers to that ancient people with which today's "Palestinian" Arabs have zero connection. 

Likewise the slogan "Free Palestine From the River to the Sea" (“free Palestine from the river [Jordan] to the sea [Mediterranean]” ) (the description indicating All the land), is the desire to replace ALL of Israel with another Arab state, and to expel or murder Israel's (indigenous) Jews: 
All the reader has to do is to imagine the October 7th, 2023 massacre on that larger scale! 

When countries wrongly accuse Israel of genocide in Gaza, yet while at the same time inconsistant with any such intention by Israel, also complain about the continous displacement of Gaza civilians (intended to keep them out of harm's way), this amounts to a “Psychological Projection” by those countries:  Institutionalised anti-Semitism where such countries desire the genocide of the Jewish people, by way of supporting Israel's enemies.