08-13-2019, 12:42 PM
(08-13-2019, 09:27 AM)Jason Wrote:(08-13-2019, 01:31 AM)nili Wrote: That's certainly OK. Pawning off Carrier's position as fact strikes me as somewhat less so.
Who's pawning anything off?
It seemed to me that you were. Perhaps I was mistaken.
(08-13-2019, 09:27 AM)Jason Wrote: Pawning off the stories written about Jesus as if they were fact is just foolish.
OK. And many would say something similar about Moses.
But -- returning to Jesus -- I distinguish between claims of divinity and claims of historicity as does Carrier (along with most others familiar with the Jesus debates).
(08-13-2019, 09:27 AM)Jason Wrote: Why should I believe what the gospels have to say about anything?
I'm simply suggesting that you should believe in the distinction between opinion and fact.
(08-13-2019, 09:27 AM)Jason Wrote: What evidence do we have for believing in a historical Jesus?
I would argue that the presumption of historicity is an instance of inference to best explanation.
If you could briefly share the evidence we have for believing in an historical Moses it would give me some sense of what you mean by the term.
(I'm heading off to visit a bunch of grandkids and will be offline for about a week. Have a great week.)
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