04-07-2020, 09:23 PM
(04-07-2020, 06:58 PM)searchinmyroots Wrote:The information I show or discuss is only what I found on the web. I am fully aware that not everything on the web is correct, accurate or true, but until I ask and get your answer I wouldn't I know. You have to test everything right?(04-07-2020, 04:57 PM)Peergint Wrote:(04-06-2020, 12:56 PM)searchinmyroots Wrote:(04-06-2020, 09:46 AM)Peergint Wrote: May I please correct you. Christians believe that Jesus, being fully God and fully Man, died FOR OUR sins, that is the sins of the world in totality.
According to this website which shows the Hebrew translation (https://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInte.../isa53.pdf) it says: "and he being wounded from transgression of us, being crushed from depravities of us. Doesn't this actually mean: "But he [was] wounded for our transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities"?
Again, I am only reading and learning.
Once I've looked a bit further into the rest of your post, which I find interesting, I will reply further.
Thank you for being patient with me for my lack of knowledge.
I am finding this most interesting.
Peergint,
No correction necessary as that is exactly what I wrote!
As I mentioned previously, the best way to understand what is written in the Hebrew bible is to understand the Hebrew language it is written in.
In this verse, the Hebrew indicates the servant was wounded from the sins of others. Christianity teaches and as you have acknowledged, Jesus died for the sins of the world.
So what I am trying to show you is the verse in Isaiah 53 is not in agreement with what Christianity teaches.
Since you find this interesting, if you want a clearer explanation of the Hebrew words for Isaiah 53, line by line, you can find it here -
http://thejewishhome.org/counter/Isa53JP.pdf
Thank you. I am taking my time looking at these documents and will certainly come back to you ASAP with more questions... probably!
Great, glad to hear!
You will see the answers to many of your questions including the use of the Hebrew word "lamo" which means "them".
Also, please refrain from writing things such as "As a Christian, I believe that Jesus came to serve in His first coming. It's when He comes a second time that He will reign."
We know what Christians believe as we interact with many and even have a few former Christians on this forum. No need to tell us about Jesus.
You also asked - "Can I ask about Daniel 9. Is it true that this is not read because a Rabbi said there was a curse on all who read it?"
I don't know where you are getting your information from, but it is clearly wrong. Just so you understand, we read the ENTIRE Hebrew bible, nothing is "left out" or taught not to read. If you understood Judaism, you would know that unlike Christianity, we are encouraged to ask questions and question the meaning of what is written. That is, everything that is written, including Isaiah 53, Daniel 9 and any other chapters or verses others might say are "forbidden".
About Daniel 9: https://www.hopechannel.com/au/read/the-prophecy-curse
http://thusiasda.com/resources/The%20Jew...0Curse.pdf