07-06-2020, 10:47 PM
(07-06-2020, 03:05 AM)Ismq Wrote: Of course the file pdf you posted. And what's not entirely convincing for me was: his explanations(i'm not talking about his explanations of the hebrew)trying to fit israel in every verse of isaiah 52:14,15 and 53:2-12.he uses history...etc.also his explaining on how israel's wounds will heal the nations. Also the issue that the gentile nations speak. Also the usage of translation" accepted his prayers"instead of"inflicted upon him".
Okay, so you don't think the explanations for those verses are convincing, fair enough.
53:2 - Did you know Israel is referred to in other places in the Hebrew bible as a sapling or a root from dry ground? (Ezekiel 19:13)
53:3 - I showed you in my essay how Israel is described in many places in the Hebrew bible as being despised, rejected and sick
53:5 - It says the servant was wounded from the sins of others, not for the sins of others
53:7 - The Hebrew bible has several places where it says Israel was afflicted and led like a sheep to the slaughter
53:8 - The Hebrew for the phrase "land of the living" always refers to the Land of Israel in the Hebrew bible. So the servant wasn't killed, he was exiled.
53:9 - Again the Hebrew word used here means "deaths" in the plural referring to the people of Israel
53:10 - As I mentioned earlier, according to the Hebrew, the servant here acknowledges guilt
53:11 - The servant will vindicate the righteous with knowledge
So even if we put aside for a moment the thought that Isaiah 53 is speaking of Israel we can clearly see it cannot be about Jesus.
When did you ever hear a Christian say - Did you know Jesus was wounded from the sins of others and by his knowledge you are justified?
How can Jesus be guilty if he is said to have been sinless?
How could Jesus have many deaths?
There is NO mention of the word messiah in this chapter.
There is NO mention of the need for blood to be saved in this chapter.
There is NO mention that you must believe in the servant to be forgiven for your sins and the only way to the father is through the son.
There is NO mention of a second coming to fulfill the prophecies.