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Isaiah 53 Verse 10
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אִם-תָּשִׂים אָשָׁם נַפְשׁוֺ  Interesting question.  My translation is up for correction, please.  The word asham, with two kamats is a noun. Ben Yehuda's dictionary gives the definition as, guilt; or guilt sacrifice.

By using the form guilt sacrifice the verse could be translated as, if he will place his soul as a guilt offering.  This way guiltless and as a vicarious offering?  I'm not sure how the Hebrew word for he will place or he will put תּשִׂים is used differently in some English translations.   I hope Jason weighs in with the correct grammar and context.

While mulling this over some more, I thought the JPS Tanach had the closest English translation to the Hebrew. But the Lord chose to crush him by disease, that if he made himself an offering for guilt...They render the word disease חֱלִי accurately, while it could not be Jesus because he had no disease. The NIV reads "to cause him to suffer," while the English here could be directed to be about Jesus.

To admit or acknowledge would be הודָה Hodah. The Stone Edition Tanach, Hashem desired to oppress him and He afflicted him; if his soul would acknowledge guilt...

While the verse is about Israel, why use the English verb afflicted when הֶחֱלִי (by disease) would be more accurate and eliminate confusion. I comment of course with a question.
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Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 08-30-2020, 02:43 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Dana - 08-30-2020, 03:52 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 08-30-2020, 07:39 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 08-30-2020, 07:45 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Dana - 08-30-2020, 08:30 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 08-30-2020, 09:48 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Jason - 08-31-2020, 08:01 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 08-31-2020, 08:35 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Ismq - 09-02-2020, 01:55 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 09-02-2020, 02:25 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Ismq - 09-02-2020, 02:29 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 09-02-2020, 03:12 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Ismq - 09-02-2020, 03:26 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 09-02-2020, 01:20 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Ismq - 09-02-2020, 07:15 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 09-02-2020, 07:26 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by RabbiO - 09-02-2020, 08:39 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Ismq - 09-02-2020, 08:03 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 09-02-2020, 08:49 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Ismq - 09-02-2020, 11:12 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 09-02-2020, 11:49 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Jason - 09-03-2020, 06:17 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Jason - 09-03-2020, 10:53 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Ismq - 09-04-2020, 05:08 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Dana - 09-04-2020, 07:36 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by RabbiO - 09-04-2020, 11:17 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 09-04-2020, 12:44 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Jason - 09-04-2020, 05:52 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by robrecht - 09-05-2020, 04:29 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Jason - 09-05-2020, 04:32 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 11-13-2020, 03:37 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by veil23 - 05-15-2023, 09:19 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 05-16-2023, 12:36 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by ThomasDGW - 02-21-2024, 12:56 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by veil23 - 05-17-2023, 09:04 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 05-18-2023, 01:58 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by veil23 - 05-19-2023, 08:29 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 05-19-2023, 09:46 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by veil23 - 05-21-2023, 09:13 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 05-21-2023, 10:05 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 02-21-2024, 01:15 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by ThomasDGW - 02-21-2024, 02:08 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 02-21-2024, 02:11 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by ThomasDGW - 02-21-2024, 10:27 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 02-22-2024, 12:41 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by RabbiO - 02-21-2024, 01:02 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Praise El Shaddai - 02-24-2024, 09:13 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 02-25-2024, 01:12 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Blue Bird - 02-25-2024, 03:32 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 02-25-2024, 06:38 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Blue Bird - 02-25-2024, 07:50 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 02-25-2024, 09:35 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Praise El Shaddai - 04-01-2024, 08:13 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 04-01-2024, 10:40 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Praise El Shaddai - 04-06-2024, 07:35 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 04-07-2024, 03:48 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Jason - 04-10-2024, 08:45 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by RabbiO - 04-10-2024, 08:48 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Dana - 04-10-2024, 11:09 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by Blue Bird - 04-12-2024, 09:27 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by ThomasDGW - 04-14-2024, 07:07 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by JudaicChristian - 05-25-2025, 06:53 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 05-26-2025, 12:29 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by JudaicChristian - 05-26-2025, 02:04 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 05-26-2025, 11:53 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by JudaicChristian - 05-26-2025, 02:16 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 05-26-2025, 04:36 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by JudaicChristian - 05-26-2025, 07:28 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 05-27-2025, 12:52 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by ThomasDGW - 06-07-2025, 01:08 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by JudaicChristian - 06-07-2025, 02:17 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by ThomasDGW - 06-08-2025, 07:49 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 06-08-2025, 11:24 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by ThomasDGW - 06-08-2025, 08:52 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by JudaicChristian - 06-07-2025, 02:21 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 06-08-2025, 11:27 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by BlueBird2 - 06-08-2025, 11:40 AM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by JudaicChristian - 06-08-2025, 02:02 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by rosends - 06-08-2025, 02:28 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by ThomasDGW - 06-08-2025, 09:12 PM
RE: Isaiah 53 Verse 10 - by searchinmyroots - 06-08-2025, 09:21 PM

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