04-08-2021, 06:42 AM
(04-07-2021, 11:49 PM)searchinmyroots Wrote:(04-07-2021, 02:58 PM)Blue Bird Wrote:(04-07-2021, 02:14 PM)searchinmyroots Wrote: Yes, that is what Isaiah says!
But what Paul says in Romans is the opposite, that is my point -
Romans 11-
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
The way I read it, Paul is saying there will be a deliverer (referencing Jesus) who will come out of Zion and Israel will be saved as this deliverer will take away their sins.
Clearly, that is not what is written in Isaiah.
In Isajah, what is the redeemer supposed do with those who repent of transgression in Jacob? Why do you need a redeemer if you can do everything yourself?
There are other verses in Isaiah which I mentioned earlier that show that the meaning of Pauls statement isn't wrong. Why stick to this one verse?
The problem is that Paul is writing a letter and it's not clear when he stops quoting or when /why he changed the quote intentionally. Because he was a well educated man, I'm sure he knew the exact quote in Isaiah.
The redeemer will help rescue them and help them recover, he cannot take away their sins. Only G-d can do that and the redeemer is not G-d.
To me, it looks like Paul is focused on this specific verse as it is almost identical with a couple of twists. He has a habit of changing the meanings of verses he quotes from the Hebrew bible.
Here is another example -
Deuteronomy 30:11-14
Paul quotes these verses but strangely leaves out a very important part of one in Romans 10. He talks about righteousness by faith, not by the law. He seemed to forget the end of verse 14 which clearly says you can keep the law.
It is clear in Deuteronomy 30 the last verse 20 that keeping the law is life and will lengthen our days.
Thank you for the answer.