02-25-2024, 03:32 PM
There are also strong promises for Israel in chapter 52.
However, when I read chapter 53, I find it difficult to relate some verses to Israel.
Despised and rejected by men, a man of pains and accustomed to illness, and as one who hides his face from us, despised and we held him of no account.
Who is “we” and who is “he”? I think “we” are the ones the text is addressing, the people of Israel. If “he” were the servant Israel, then Israel would held Israel of no account.
Indeed, he bore our illnesses, and our pains-he carried them, yet we accounted him as plagued, smitten by God and oppressed. But he was pained because of our transgressions, crushed because of our iniquities; the chastisement of our welfare was upon him, and with his wound we were healed.
Here also my question would be, "he" was pained because of "our" transgressions" - "he" is one (nation, person whatever), and explicitly others "our transgressions" (cannot be the same as "he"). Isn't it a teaching in Judaism that every person is responsible for himself and bears his own transgressions? Is this a new teaching, that Israel carries other peoples transgressions? And “in his wound we are healed” – does Israel’s wound heal the nations? But as we have already seen, “we” is Israel.
(veres 3-5 https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo...ter-53.htm)
However, when I read chapter 53, I find it difficult to relate some verses to Israel.
Despised and rejected by men, a man of pains and accustomed to illness, and as one who hides his face from us, despised and we held him of no account.
Who is “we” and who is “he”? I think “we” are the ones the text is addressing, the people of Israel. If “he” were the servant Israel, then Israel would held Israel of no account.
Indeed, he bore our illnesses, and our pains-he carried them, yet we accounted him as plagued, smitten by God and oppressed. But he was pained because of our transgressions, crushed because of our iniquities; the chastisement of our welfare was upon him, and with his wound we were healed.
Here also my question would be, "he" was pained because of "our" transgressions" - "he" is one (nation, person whatever), and explicitly others "our transgressions" (cannot be the same as "he"). Isn't it a teaching in Judaism that every person is responsible for himself and bears his own transgressions? Is this a new teaching, that Israel carries other peoples transgressions? And “in his wound we are healed” – does Israel’s wound heal the nations? But as we have already seen, “we” is Israel.
(veres 3-5 https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo...ter-53.htm)