Who buried with whom? Isaiah 53:9

[ThomasDGW]

AFTER I found a coherent message in the NT text, then I found that it fit life AND many things in the Hebrew Bible, as explained by the counter-missionaries, like Tovia Singer.

You mentioned Tovia Singer so I’d like to suggest a book of his I had purchased that had been very helpful.   


It would not be necessary to learn the Hebrew language if you could accept what Tovia Singer demonstrates in his book Outreach Judaism - In-depth study guide to the “Let's Get Biblical” Tape Series.  The Hebrew language is used sparingly and in a way that  does not overwhelm, but explains what is actually written in the Tanakh.  He debunks the notion of Jesus being the servant in Isaiah 53 and covers the Isaiah 53:9 verse you are struggling with.   

Thanks for the suggestion, however, I think I have heard most of his debunking arguments already. I have rejected the arguments I heard, not because I think he doesn't know Hebrew, but because he thinks he knows the NT well enough to conclude that the NT is wrong.  Several years ago, I had an email exchange with Tovia, and I tried to show him what I had discovered in the NT that showed that there was really not a clash between the NT and the Hebrew Bible in a specific area where he claimed there was. His response was something to the effect that my explanations were not mainstream Christian explanations, so he wasn't interested.  That told me that he was only interested in attacking Christianity, not in being accurate or discovering the truth. He still talks like there are no answers to his objections to the NT.

Apparently, you still have not read all my posts on this thread, because if you've read them, you should have seen that I am not struggling with Isaiah 53:9. On the contrary, it fits beautifully with what the NT account says of Jesus' burial.

Also, I am learning Hebrew when I have the opportunity. I'm not completely ignorant of it, and I am not overwhelmed by it. I'm just not dropping everything to make it a priority, because I believe that I have enough resources available, including Jewish websites, to get a good idea of what the text says.  There are just a few points of disagreement over what the text says. Most of the disagreement is over how to interpret the text.