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Who buried with whom? Isaiah 53:9
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I did not ignore the plural part. My answer is that a plural servant in one section does not automatically mean that this plural servant applies to other mentions of God's servant. The servant's identity can change.

I didn't tell you "my version" of judgment day, I reminded you of your version, (which is really the same as my version) the one in which you will be judged by your obedience or disobedience to the Torah, and everything hidden will be revealed.  You apparently read everything I say through a distorting lens, because I did not say anything about "believing in a messiah for the Christian meaning of salvation." In my last paragraph, I said that those who don't believe in Jesus don't trust the Hebrew prophets. On the judgment day, you will be judged for not following your prophets whom you affirm are from God, NOT for not believing in Jesus. But, believing in Jesus, or not, is a present test to see if you really follow Moses, or Isaiah, or Zechariah, to see if you really fear God and keep His commandments.

For example, Isaiah 53 speaks of someone bearing sins. A Jew who says, "I don't need a sin bearer. All I have to do is approach God, and God will forgive my sins," is disregarding their prophet.

You keep accusing me of pushing the Christian meaning of salvation. Let me tell you something. Christian theologians don't accuse me of that. I used to think that I believed in the Christian meaning of salvation, but when I stopped accepting the interpretations of Christianity imposed on the NT, I radically changed my understanding. The NT teaches that the salvation of Jesus is an act of writing the Torah on the heart, exactly as Jeremiah 31:31-34 said. So, a person who receives the salvation/new covenant of Jesus is going to judgment day as a Torah observer, who loved God with all his heart and his neighbor as himself.  There are more details, but none can contradict this.

A Jew who says, "I don't need God to write the Torah on my heart. I can do that myself," is disregarding their prophet.

The Christianity version of salvation is that a person who believes in Jesus gets Jesus' sacrifice accounted to him as a payment of the death penalty for sin, so that he is still a sinner who does not follow the Torah, but all his sins are filtered out through the blood of Jesus, so he will not come to the original version of judgment day, but another version in which he will be recognized to be a sinner, but because he believed in Jesus, "the death of Jesus serves as his paid penalty," so he gets eternal life. I completely reject this version of salvation, and I am not trying to convert anyone to it.
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Who buried with whom? Isaiah 53:9 - by ThomasDGW - 02-29-2024, 09:35 PM
RE: Who buried with whom? Isaiah 53:9 - by Dana - 03-30-2024, 01:15 AM
RE: Who buried with whom? Isaiah 53:9 - by Dana - 03-31-2024, 04:06 PM
RE: Who buried with whom? Isaiah 53:9 - by ThomasDGW - 04-04-2024, 12:00 AM

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