07-26-2025, 10:46 AM
(This post was last modified: 08-06-2025, 12:21 PM by COmentator.)
OH Israel
80 years ago the Nazis sang about Killing Jews
*1933-1946 6/9 Jews in Europe killed by the Nazis and their allies
*1920/1948 to present 90% of Jews in Arab/Muslin/North Africa/Asia have gone up to Israel after these nations adopted NAzi methods Judenfrei
Today the spirtual descendents of Esau and Ishamael are carrying on their Nazi forefathers mission of making the world Judenfrei indeed since Israel declared themselves the only Jewish COuntry in the world
How can anyone ever forget that them chanting "From the River to the Sea Palestine will be free" ever since 7 october 2023?
TAke Note of the Flags in the poster Palestine/PLO; Fatah; Hamas; Al-Qassam Brigade; Hezbollah
With "friends" like that-who needs enemies?
is there a jewish word for someone who thinks that in order for jews to have peace with goy nations they must bow to goy demands -even if other jews are disadvanged by their actions?
While there isn't one single, universally accepted Jewish term for someone who thinks that Jews must bow to gentiles for peace, even if it disadvantages other Jews, several concepts and terms might be relevant to understanding this idea
Assimilation (Hitbolelut): The term refers to the gradual cultural assimilation and social integration of Jews into their surrounding culture. This can involve conforming to the dominant society's norms and potentially sacrificing certain Jewish practices or identities in exchange for acceptance or to avoid persecution.
Self-Hatred/Self-Loathing Jew: The term "self-hating Jew" or "self-loathing Jew" describes individuals who disparage or reject their Jewish identity or community, sometimes aligning with antisemitic perspectives or criticizing fellow Jews excessively. This term has been used to describe Jews who distance themselves from their heritage or community in hopes of acceptance from the majority culture, potentially even at the expense of other Jews.
Hellenization: The historical process of the adoption of Greek culture by Jews, particularly after the conquests of Alexander the Great. During the Hellenistic period, some Jews embraced Greek customs and beliefs, sometimes even abandoning their Jewish practices. This led to internal conflict and ultimately the Maccabean Revolt, which was fought to resist the forced assimilation of the Jewish people.
Kapos: A loaded term with a specific historical context related to the Holocaust. Kapos were prisoners in Nazi concentration camps, some of whom were Jewish, who were forced to oversee other prisoners and were sometimes given privileges by the Nazis. Their actions, particularly those who were cruel or collaborated with the Nazis, have led to the term "Kapo" being used as a severe pejorative in some Jewish circles for those perceived as betraying their fellow Jews.
In the context of the question, one could argue that a person advocating for "bowing to gentile demands" to achieve "peace" at the expense of other Jews might be seen as prioritizing a form of assimilation or compromise that could be perceived as detrimental to the well-being of the Jewish community. While "Kapo" is a much stronger and historically charged term, it highlights the potential for collaboration with oppressors to be seen as a form of betrayal.
Darchei Shalom (דרכי שלום): This Hebrew term, meaning "ways of peace," emphasizes maintaining peaceful relations with non-Jews. While it encourages coexistence, it does not necessarily imply sacrificing Jewish well-being.
Chilul Hashem (חילול השם): This term signifies "profanation of God's name," referring to actions that bring discredit to Judaism in the eyes of others. This concept is related to upholding Jewish values, but does not directly address appeasement at the expense of Jewish interests.
Jewish self-hatred: This socio-psychological concept describes a form of antisemitism where Jews internalize and express negative sentiments about their own identity or community. Some scholars suggest this can manifest as excessive appeasement towards non-Jews, potentially harming the Jewish community.
Nuance and perspective
Jewish communities hold diverse views on interacting with non-Jews. Sacrificing Jewish well-being for the sake of peace with non-Jews is generally not considered a core Jewish value and may be viewed critically by some.
80 years ago the Nazis sang about Killing Jews
*1933-1946 6/9 Jews in Europe killed by the Nazis and their allies
*1920/1948 to present 90% of Jews in Arab/Muslin/North Africa/Asia have gone up to Israel after these nations adopted NAzi methods Judenfrei
Today the spirtual descendents of Esau and Ishamael are carrying on their Nazi forefathers mission of making the world Judenfrei indeed since Israel declared themselves the only Jewish COuntry in the world
How can anyone ever forget that them chanting "From the River to the Sea Palestine will be free" ever since 7 october 2023?
TAke Note of the Flags in the poster Palestine/PLO; Fatah; Hamas; Al-Qassam Brigade; Hezbollah
With "friends" like that-who needs enemies?
is there a jewish word for someone who thinks that in order for jews to have peace with goy nations they must bow to goy demands -even if other jews are disadvanged by their actions?
While there isn't one single, universally accepted Jewish term for someone who thinks that Jews must bow to gentiles for peace, even if it disadvantages other Jews, several concepts and terms might be relevant to understanding this idea
Assimilation (Hitbolelut): The term refers to the gradual cultural assimilation and social integration of Jews into their surrounding culture. This can involve conforming to the dominant society's norms and potentially sacrificing certain Jewish practices or identities in exchange for acceptance or to avoid persecution.
Self-Hatred/Self-Loathing Jew: The term "self-hating Jew" or "self-loathing Jew" describes individuals who disparage or reject their Jewish identity or community, sometimes aligning with antisemitic perspectives or criticizing fellow Jews excessively. This term has been used to describe Jews who distance themselves from their heritage or community in hopes of acceptance from the majority culture, potentially even at the expense of other Jews.
Hellenization: The historical process of the adoption of Greek culture by Jews, particularly after the conquests of Alexander the Great. During the Hellenistic period, some Jews embraced Greek customs and beliefs, sometimes even abandoning their Jewish practices. This led to internal conflict and ultimately the Maccabean Revolt, which was fought to resist the forced assimilation of the Jewish people.
Kapos: A loaded term with a specific historical context related to the Holocaust. Kapos were prisoners in Nazi concentration camps, some of whom were Jewish, who were forced to oversee other prisoners and were sometimes given privileges by the Nazis. Their actions, particularly those who were cruel or collaborated with the Nazis, have led to the term "Kapo" being used as a severe pejorative in some Jewish circles for those perceived as betraying their fellow Jews.
In the context of the question, one could argue that a person advocating for "bowing to gentile demands" to achieve "peace" at the expense of other Jews might be seen as prioritizing a form of assimilation or compromise that could be perceived as detrimental to the well-being of the Jewish community. While "Kapo" is a much stronger and historically charged term, it highlights the potential for collaboration with oppressors to be seen as a form of betrayal.
Darchei Shalom (דרכי שלום): This Hebrew term, meaning "ways of peace," emphasizes maintaining peaceful relations with non-Jews. While it encourages coexistence, it does not necessarily imply sacrificing Jewish well-being.
Chilul Hashem (חילול השם): This term signifies "profanation of God's name," referring to actions that bring discredit to Judaism in the eyes of others. This concept is related to upholding Jewish values, but does not directly address appeasement at the expense of Jewish interests.
Jewish self-hatred: This socio-psychological concept describes a form of antisemitism where Jews internalize and express negative sentiments about their own identity or community. Some scholars suggest this can manifest as excessive appeasement towards non-Jews, potentially harming the Jewish community.
Nuance and perspective
Jewish communities hold diverse views on interacting with non-Jews. Sacrificing Jewish well-being for the sake of peace with non-Jews is generally not considered a core Jewish value and may be viewed critically by some.