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[searchinmyroots]

and second, because living righteously and doing good should be sufficient in itself, without the need for sacrificial redemption.

Yahya,

That goes against the Christian doctrine that says you cannot be saved by your works.

[BlueBird2]

There are sacrifices for sins in the Hebrew Bible and a need for cleansing from sins (Ps. 51 among many others).  I can't get my head around it that these ideas seem  out of reach in Judaism today. Maybe people are much better today than they were back then.

You may not believe it, but "work out your salvation" (Philippians 2) is also part of the Christian teaching

[searchinmyroots]

There are sacrifices for sins in the Hebrew Bible and a need for cleansing from sins (Ps. 51 among many others).  I can't get my head around it that these ideas seem  out of reach in Judaism today. Maybe people are much better today than they were back then.

You may not believe it, but "work out your salvation" (Philippians 2) is also part of the Christian teaching

I'm not sure why you think it is out of reach in Judaism today. 

It's not about the psychical sacrifice, it's about returning to G-d. That's why Psalm 51 says G-d does not desire our psychical sacrifices.

It is repeated over and over again in the Hebrew bible that we are to return to G-d and He will forgive us, without a sacrifice.

Teshuvah

[Yahya Sharif]

and second, because living righteously and doing good should be sufficient in itself, without the need for sacrificial redemption.

Yahya,

That goes against the Christian doctrine that says you cannot be saved by your works.

Perhaps Paul was close to going even further when he said:

“What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid.” (KJV)

[Yahya Sharif]

There are sacrifices for sins in the Hebrew Bible and a need for cleansing from sins 

At least in Judaism, there is no overly generous sacrifice like that in Christianity. Sacrifices are part of many legal rituals  not a magical act driven by emotion or belief.

[BlueBird2]

There are sacrifices for sins in the Hebrew Bible and a need for cleansing from sins (Ps. 51 among many others).  I can't get my head around it that these ideas seem  out of reach in Judaism today. Maybe people are much better today than they were back then.

You may not believe it, but "work out your salvation" (Philippians 2) is also part of the Christian teaching

I'm not sure why you think it is out of reach in Judaism today. 

It's not about the psychical sacrifice, it's about returning to G-d. That's why Psalm 51 says G-d does not desire our psychical sacrifices.

It is repeated over and over again in the Hebrew bible that we are to return to G-d and He will forgive us, without a sacrifice.

Teshuvah

Why did they offer sin offerings in a physical form in 2. Chronicles 29, Ezra 6; Ezra 8, Nehemia 10, Ezekiel in Chapters 40, 42, 43, 44, 45 and 46? Wasn't it on the basis of Moses' s word and command?

[Yahya Sharif]

There are sacrifices for sins in the Hebrew Bible and a need for cleansing from sins (Ps. 51 among many others).  I can't get my head around it that these ideas seem  out of reach in Judaism today. Maybe people are much better today than they were back then.

You may not believe it, but "work out your salvation" (Philippians 2) is also part of the Christian teaching

I'm not sure why you think it is out of reach in Judaism today. 

It's not about the psychical sacrifice, it's about returning to G-d. That's why Psalm 51 says G-d does not desire our psychical sacrifices.

It is repeated over and over again in the Hebrew bible that we are to return to G-d and He will forgive us, without a sacrifice.

Teshuvah

Why did they offer sin offerings in a physical form in 2. Chronicles 29, Ezra 6; Ezra 8, Nehemia 10, Ezekiel in Chapters 40, 42, 43, 44, 45 and 46? Wasn't it on the basis of Moses' s word and command?

It is worth quoting from Psalm 51:

“You do not want me to bring sacrifices;
You do not desire burnt offerings.
The true sacrifice to God is a contrite spirit.” (Psalm 51:18)



Yet, by the end of the psalm, a shift appears:

“Then You will desire sacrifices offered in righteousness,
burnt offerings and whole offerings;
then bulls will be offered on Your altar.” (Psalm 51:20)

The value of a sacrifice is contingent upon clean intent and righteousness.

[searchinmyroots]

There are sacrifices for sins in the Hebrew Bible and a need for cleansing from sins (Ps. 51 among many others).  I can't get my head around it that these ideas seem  out of reach in Judaism today. Maybe people are much better today than they were back then.

You may not believe it, but "work out your salvation" (Philippians 2) is also part of the Christian teaching

I'm not sure why you think it is out of reach in Judaism today. 

It's not about the psychical sacrifice, it's about returning to G-d. That's why Psalm 51 says G-d does not desire our psychical sacrifices.

It is repeated over and over again in the Hebrew bible that we are to return to G-d and He will forgive us, without a sacrifice.

Teshuvah

Why did they offer sin offerings in a physical form in 2. Chronicles 29, Ezra 6; Ezra 8, Nehemia 10, Ezekiel in Chapters 40, 42, 43, 44, 45 and 46? Wasn't it on the basis of Moses' s word and command?

Unintentional sins

I think it's pretty obvious that the Christian bible teaches the only way to be forgiven for your sins is through Jesus.

The Hebrew bible teaches that teshuvah is the way.

[JudaicChristian]

There are sacrifices for sins in the Hebrew Bible and a need for cleansing from sins (Ps. 51 among many others).  I can't get my head around it that these ideas seem  out of reach in Judaism today. Maybe people are much better today than they were back then.

You may not believe it, but "work out your salvation" (Philippians 2) is also part of the Christian teaching

I'm not sure why you think it is out of reach in Judaism today. 

It's not about the psychical sacrifice, it's about returning to G-d. That's why Psalm 51 says G-d does not desire our psychical sacrifices.

It is repeated over and over again in the Hebrew bible that we are to return to G-d and He will forgive us, without a sacrifice.

Teshuvah

Why did they offer sin offerings in a physical form in 2. Chronicles 29, Ezra 6; Ezra 8, Nehemia 10, Ezekiel in Chapters 40, 42, 43, 44, 45 and 46? Wasn't it on the basis of Moses' s word and command?

Unintentional sins

I think it's pretty obvious that the Christian bible teaches the only way to be forgiven for your sins is through Jesus.

The Hebrew bible teaches that teshuvah is the way.

Repentance:
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch...repentance&version=NIV

[searchinmyroots]

Repentance:
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch...repentance&version=NIV

So are you saying Jesus didn't have to die for your sins?