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Reincarnation
#1
Hello, I learned here that in addition to the Tanakh, there are several other writings in Judaism, for example the Talmud. I thought that they were all related to the Torah in some way, or that the Torah was the basis of everything.

A Jew told me about his past lives and that reincarnation was a common view in Judaism. This desturbed me very much, but I thought this was a view that only a single person had. Now I came across a video that talked about the Kabbalah teaching and that some people in the Bible were reincarnated as other people later in the book. The Christian Bible says "It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment."(Hebr. 9:27) and God says to Moshe in Deuteronomy 31:16 "Behold, you are about to lie with your forefathers." Moshe wasn't perfect when he died ("Since you did not have faith in Me to sanctify Me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore you shall not bring this assembly to the Land which I have given them." Numbers 20:12) so as I understand it, he was a candidat for reincarnation. But God only fortold his future with his fathers (and thus confessing that they also stay in the land of the dead).

What is reincarnation all about and how did the authors of Kabbalah come to their teaching?
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#2
do you mean this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgul
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#3
(11-21-2023, 12:29 PM)rosends Wrote: do you mean this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgul

I don't know. I can't find anything in the wiki text about how the idea of reincarnation was developed. It is said that Kabbalah is an esoteric mysticism, so perhaps they adopted the teachings from other (non-Jewish) ideas. The teaching itself and how it relates to Judaism isn't clear to me. Thanks for the link for a first impression. (It would be nice if someone had a short, easy-to-understand explanation instead of a link)
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#4
Reincarnation
https://aish.com/reincarnation/
https://www.chabad.org/search/keyword_cd...nation.htm
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_c...nation.htm
https://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_...nation.htm


Dybbuk
https://aish.com/dybbuk/
https://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_...ndings.htm
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(11-21-2023, 04:19 PM)COmentator Wrote: Reincarnation
https://aish.com/reincarnation/
https://www.chabad.org/search/keyword_cd...nation.htm
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_c...nation.htm
https://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_...nation.htm


Dybbuk
https://aish.com/dybbuk/
https://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_...ndings.htm

It would be nice if someone had a short, easy-to-understand explanation instead of a link. (see my post above)
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#6
Blue Bird,

I'm not sure we know how, who or when that thought started.

Maybe it was one person, maybe it was many.

Either way, it is not universally accepted and never has been.

But then again, 2 Jews, 3 opinions!
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(11-21-2023, 09:17 PM)searchinmyroots Wrote: Blue Bird,

I'm not sure we know how, who or when that thought started.

Maybe it was one person, maybe it was many.

Either way, it is not universally accepted and never has been.

But then again, 2 Jews, 3 opinions!

Thank you SMR for your answer. 

side note: It's sad that people can call themselves Jews and believe whatever they want or believe nothing as long as they don't believe that Jesus is the Messiah.
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#8
Blue Bird,

I think you may be looking at it from the wrong angle.

To be "Jewish" doesn't mean one observes Judaism.

It doesn't have to do with Jesus at all. Many are atheists, follow Buddhism and some are Christians.

But they are all still Jewish.
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#9
Jain....Jewish born people and converts are officially the same as I understand it, and converts do not have to "believe" in God, may or may not believe in reincarnation, or may even be an atheist as long as...
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(11-22-2023, 06:57 PM)Blue Bird Wrote: Jain....Jewish born people and converts are officially the same as I understand it, and converts do not have to "believe" in God, may or may not believe in reincarnation, or may even be an atheist as long as...

I guess it depends on what authority they convert under and what they believe.

Sort of like converting to a Jehovah Witness, who if I'm not mistaken, do not believe Jesus to be G-d.
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