The following warnings occurred:
Warning [2] Undefined property: MyLanguage::$thread_modes - Line: 46 - File: showthread.php(1621) : eval()'d code PHP 8.1.27 (Linux)
File Line Function
/inc/class_error.php 153 errorHandler->error
/showthread.php(1621) : eval()'d code 46 errorHandler->error_callback
/showthread.php 1621 eval




Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
General: Greek John 17:5
#3
(04-01-2019, 12:43 AM)Jason Wrote: I'm sure we've discussed this verse a lot on CARM. It obviously means that Jesus had glory before the world existed, and he was asking that such glory be restored to him.

I don't remember being in any conversation about this verse on CARM and I didn't want to post the question on CARM because I didn't want to have to deal with John Milton, so I came here.

I found an article on the Internet:

https://christiandefense.org/deity-of-ch...nt-christ/

but with articles on the Internet and not knowing Greek I can't be sure it is correct. 

Clip:  Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself[para seautō] with the glory which I had [eichon] with You [para soi] before the world was.”

In Jesus’ High Priestly prayer to the Father, He requests or commands (as we will see)[3] the Father to glorify Himself together with the Father, with the glory that He had (or shared [eichon]) with (para) the Father before the world was. Hence, according to the Son’s own words, He pre-existed withthe Father—“before the world was.” 

Thanks.
Reply


Messages In This Thread
Greek John 17:5 - by George - 03-31-2019, 02:00 PM
RE: Greek John 17:5 - by Jason - 04-01-2019, 12:43 AM
RE: Greek John 17:5 - by George - 04-01-2019, 10:10 AM
RE: Greek John 17:5 - by Jason - 04-01-2019, 06:17 PM
RE: Greek John 17:5 - by George - 04-01-2019, 06:20 PM
RE: Greek John 17:5 - by John Doe - 10-18-2019, 08:49 AM
RE: Greek John 17:5 - by Jason - 10-20-2019, 05:03 AM
RE: Greek John 17:5 - by John Doe - 10-22-2019, 04:46 AM
RE: Greek John 17:5 - by Jason - 10-28-2019, 06:12 AM

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)