04-01-2019, 10:10 AM
(04-01-2019, 12:43 AM)Jason Wrote: I'm sure we've discussed this verse a lot on CARM. It obviously means that Jesus had glory before the world existed, and he was asking that such glory be restored to him.
I don't remember being in any conversation about this verse on CARM and I didn't want to post the question on CARM because I didn't want to have to deal with John Milton, so I came here.
I found an article on the Internet:
https://christiandefense.org/deity-of-ch...nt-christ/
but with articles on the Internet and not knowing Greek I can't be sure it is correct.
Clip: Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, [para seautō] with the glory which I had [eichon] with You [para soi] before the world was.”
In Jesus’ High Priestly prayer to the Father, He requests or commands (as we will see)[3] the Father to glorify Himself together with the Father, with the glory that He had (or shared [eichon]) with (para) the Father before the world was. Hence, according to the Son’s own words, He pre-existed withthe Father—“before the world was.”
Thanks.