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Isaiah 9:6 comment
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Hebrew (Transcribed from DSS 1QIsaᵃ):
כי ילד יולד לנו
בן נתן לנו
ותהי המשרה על שכמו
ויקרא שמו
פלא יועץ אל גבור
אבי עד שר שלום
 English Translation (Literal):
For a child is born to us,
a son is given to us,
and the government is upon his shoulder;
and his name shall be called:
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.



His name will be called—not that he himself will be all those things. We know from Psalm 2 that G-d will call HaMashiach His son, saying, "You are My son; today I have begotten you." The title "Everlasting Father" refers to G-d, who is the eternal Father of HaMashiach, according to standard Jewish interpretations.

The phrase "His name shall be called…” can also be understood as “G-d’s name shall be called…” when you mention someone will be called you use the pronoun" his" instead of his name so: his...  instead of G-d's.... "Prince of Peace" is one of the names attributed to HaMashiach, symbolizing his role. The government being upon his shoulder reflects that he is a ruler—a prince, which by definition is the son of a king. This reinforces the idea that HaMashiach is a son, not a deity. Notice these names everlasting father, mighty G-d,... are not separated by" and" which means the last name " prince of peace" is for HaMashiach who is the son who "was given to us"

According to Christian doctrine, the verse refers to the birth of the Son of G-d, who is then also called "Everlasting Father" and "Mighty God." This creates a theological paradox: he is both the Son and the Father at the same time, and also both the Mighty God and the Son of the Mighty God. Jesus has misled only his followers through such confusing claims.
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Isaiah 9:6 comment - by JudaicChristian - 09-13-2023, 02:09 AM
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