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Israel: Is lack of factual information why some Jews believe “Palestinian” Arab propaganda?
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Typical “Palestinian” Arab falsehood-propaganda, together with a brief rebuttal:

(Tip: Either scroll down, or use your web browser's 'Find' option, to locate the "Palestinian" falsehood-propaganda of your choice!)

The Jews / Israel:


1) Invaded a place called “Palestine”:

Proper name = Israel / Judah.
“Palestine” is the Roman attempted-rename, only twice in history used as a name for the land, but by foreign imperial powers: the Romans, and the British.
There never has been any indigenous “Palestine” / Arab sovereign state in the land of Israel upon which the "Palestinian" Arabs could base any claim to any part of the land, nor to substantiate their false-claims of: invasion, land-theft, illegal-occupation, illegal-settlement. 

Why does "Palestinian" Arab propaganda call the land “Palestine”?: 
As did the Romans - to negate the names Israel / Judah for the land, 
and 
because it would not accord so well with "Palestinian" Arab falsehood-propaganda to accuse the JEWS of stealing “JUDAH” !

I have discussed the origins of the name “Palestine” and its usage in attempts to negate the name Israel, here:
https://www.thehebrewcafe.com/forum/show...hp?tid=803

2.1) Stole the Land from the “Palestinian” Arabs / "Palestinian People":

Israel is Re-established within the Jewish ancestral homeland - Look at a map of the last indigenous sovereign state in the land of Israel prior to modern Israel, which was the post-Biblical Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom.
Reference is made to Kings of Biblical Israel in the noble Quran !
See the examples within:
https://www.thehebrewcafe.com/forum/show...6&pid=5310 - pid5310
The Jews are indigenous to their ancestral homeland of Israel and despite partial-exile, have had unbroken presence there from Biblical times - see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographi...e_(region)

Both Arabs and JEWS became “Palestinian” citizens under the British Mandate (1922 to 1948) irrespective of religion or ethnicity; a nationality which legally-ceased with the end of the British Mandate in 1948 - Look up the British “Palestinian Citizenship Order 1925”.
Examples of British Mandate Passports:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/p6hjhurn7...s.pdf/file

The “Palestinian” Arabs decided to call themselves a “people” only from about 1964:
http://www.targetofopportunity.com/pales..._truth.htm

Quote:When was the “Palestinian people” actually created? Simply using the Google Ngram Viewer provides the answer.
[You can use Ngram to do this using the following URL:]
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?co...53B%252Cc0

Extract source:
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11401...ian-people

I have discussed the falsehood that the Jews / Israel stole the land from the Arabs, here:
https://www.thehebrewcafe.com/forum/show...5&pid=5250 - pid5250

Who then are today’s “Palestinian” Arabs?:
See 5. below - The majority of the “Palestinian” Arab most prevalent surnames have the highest incidence outside the “Palestine region” (detail in 5. below). The "Palestinian" Arabs mostly originate from the Foreign-Arab-Migrant-Workers who came to the land of Israel just prior to, and during the British Mandate (detail in 5. below).

2.2) Were “given” the land: by the Allies following WW2 / by the United Nations, because of the Holocaust:
The Jews were not “given” any land. In 1947 to 1948 the Arabs started a civil war, not only to oppose the United Nations Partition Plan (two-state solution) and instead take ALL the land of Israel, but also to ethnically-cleanse or murder the Jews. The more the Arabs persisted in attacking the Jewish community, the more militarized the previously peaceful Jewish community became, resulting in a force capable of defending a new state. 
Israel was Re-established not because of the Holocaust, but because the land of Israel is the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people - See links for: “Demographic history” and for the Hasmonean kingdom in 2.1) above. 

3.1) In 1948 Expelled / Caused a Nakba (disaster), to the “Palestinians” ("Palestinian" Arabs):
That is reverse-fact propaganda, the purpose of the civil war which intensified 1947 by the Arabs being to ethnically-cleanse or murder the Jewish population. No evidence of any policy to expel Arabs, but the Jews were expelled from East Jerusalem by the Jordanians in 1948:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamizati...occupation

3.2) Continue to Expel the “Palestinian” Arabs:
Thus insulting our intelligence by typically being alleged while providing:
No detail, no objective-sources; zero evidence.
Presumably also done while taking time-off from those other alleged propaganda-falsehoods: Apartheid (below), and Genocide (below).

I have discussed the falsehood alleging an Israeli / Jewish expulsion of Arabs, here:
https://www.thehebrewcafe.com/forum/show...4&pid=5291 - pid5291

I have discussed the alleged “Nakba”, here:
https://www.thehebrewcafe.com/forum/show...hp?tid=795

3.3) Caused Gaza to be (depending on the audience), allegedly a “concentration camp” / “ghetto” / Nazi “Warsaw Ghetto” / “open air prison” / “Penal colony” / “P.O.W. Camp”:
If so, a rather unusual one, able to invade Israel and conduct barbarian war crimes (October 7, 2023) such as: murder including children - including babies, rape, kidnapping, theft, arson, and also fire thousands of rockets at Israeli cities whenever the fancy takes it. If conditions there are poor it is not of Israel’s making but due to Hamas, whose priorities are: Hate-based, conflict-policies, war-based economy, misusing your Aid-money (corruption, rockets, attack tunnels), ignoring the welfare of their own people. 

4) Caused in 1948, today’s alleged 5.5 million “Palestinian” Arab refugees, who claim a “right of return”; and what about their “refugee” camps!:
The “Palestinian” Arabs have an artificial, unique, and arguably by common-sense, a bogus refugee status, that "passes through the generations", obtained from the Arab-dominated United Nations. The purpose of their refugee-device is to inflate the number of alleged-refugees for bundling with their false-claim for a “right of return”, as a (fraudulent) means of “invading” Israel.

How do the “Palestinian” Arab purported refugee-camps obtain their status as “refugee camps” ? 
Simply by the presence within them of those “Palestinian Arab" alleged "refugees” who have their unique bogus-refugee status that "passes through the generations" !:
https://www.unrwa.org/palestine-refugees

I have discussed the “Palestinian” Arab bogus refugee status, their false-claim for a “right of return”, and their “refugee” camps, here:
https://www.thehebrewcafe.com/forum/show...hp?tid=775

5) Are a Colony; are not native:
Since the “Palestinian” Arabs arrived in the land of Israel well after its indigenous Jews, this makes the “Palestinian” Arabs the “settler-colonists”; not the Jews - See above link for Demographic history, and see the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom.

Of the 100 most-prevalent “Palestinian” Arab surnames, while 16 surnames had the highest incidence in the ‘Palestine region’ (2014), the remaining 84 “Palestinian” Arab surnames had the highest incidence in countries other than the ‘Palestine region’ (2014): Information source “forebears.io”:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/9d115bv6w...d.pdf/file

The “Palestinian” Arabs mostly originate from Foreign-Arab-Migrant-Workers who came to the land of Israel just prior to, and during the British Mandate, to take advantage of higher wages through Jewish returnee-exiles -
Sources:

i)
“Arab Immigration to Historic Palestine: A Survey”, by Richard Mather:
https://richardmatherblog.wordpress.com/2015/05/

ii)
“Arab Migration Shaped Palestinian Society” - The Ettinger Report.com:
http://theettingerreport.com/arab-migrat...n-society/

iii)
“Were the Arabs Indigenous to Mandatory Palestine” - MeForum.org:
https://www.meforum.org/6275/were-the-ar...-palestine

iv)
“The Smoking Gun: Arab Immigration into Palestine, 1922-1931” by Fred M. Gotthei:
https://www.meforum.org/522/the-smoking-...-palestine

Why mention that? Because the “Palestinian” Arabs falsely-claim reverse-fact falsehood-propaganda that the Jews are invaders and the Arabs are native.

I have discussed to where the “Palestinian” Arabs are really native (aka indigenous), here:
https://www.thehebrewcafe.com/forum/show...hp?tid=789

6.1) Are in Illegal “Occupation” of the Land - The United Nations says so !:

The “Palestinian” Arabs start-off in U.N. General Assembly votes by enjoying a block-vote in their favor of up to 56 Arab and additional Islamic-aligned countries e.g. U.N. member states that are also members of the “Organization of Islamic Cooperation” and follow its policies when voting in the U.N., compared to Israel's one vote. 

Take a look at this map of the last indigenous sovereign state in the land prior to modern Israel, and consider how the Jews could logically be in any illegal-occupation of their own ancestral homeland. The post-Biblical Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom (including the "West Bank" (land of the previous Jewish Kingdoms of Judah and Samaria), Gaza, and Golan Heights), with its capital of (what is now "East") Jerusalem; between 110 BCE / 754 BH and 63 BCE / 706 BH:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c...ingdom.jpg

United Nations votes are allegedly “democratic” so shouldn’t Israel accept all the numerous anti-Israel U.N. resolutions?:
Accepted international constitutional law is that Laws must not be passed that are intrinsically-unjust that persecute a minority, as are the U.N. decisions against Israel, which falsely-validate the unverifiable-claims of the “Palestinian” Arabs.
An example of unjust-laws were the Nuremberg Laws of Nazi Germany which persecuted the Jews.

I have discussed the falsehood of an alleged Israeli / Jewish “illegal-occupation”, here:
https://www.thehebrewcafe.com/forum/show...hp?tid=780
I have also discussed the built-in anti-Israel bias of the United Nations, here:
https://www.thehebrewcafe.com/forum/show...0&pid=5327 - pid5327

6.2) Occupy the "Palestinian" Arabs aka "the Palestinians an occupied people":
When the "Palestinian" Arabs claim to be an "occupied people", it is because that other "Palestinian" Arab false-claim of an illegal-occupation of land by the Jews / Israel (of the Jews own ancestral homeland (!) ), stands unprovable and lame (see 6.1 above).
While the legal definition of "illegal-occupation" is unclear in international law, it is generally accepted it can only apply to land. The assertion it can apply to a People is a creative, rather than a legal, concept.

6.3) Illegally-occupy northern Israel because the northern Tribes were lost:
No, because the Tribe of Judah were entitled to inherit from their brothers.

6.4) Illegally-occupy Tel Aviv because King Solomon gave cities to King Hiram of Tyre:
This concerns the difference between real-estate ownership and state-sovereignty.
Yes, King Solomon “gave” some cities to King Hiram of Tyre, 1 Kings 9:11-13; but there is no indication this was anything other than personal real-estate ownership (and thus no indication of any ceding of sovereignty). 
How does this work?: If one buys a plot of land, although the purchaser may assert their ownership against other individual citizens, the sovereignty of the land remains with the country which has the right if it so desires, to order an "eminent domain" (U.K. "compulsory purchase").

7) Build Illegal “Settlements”:
See 6.1 above. Further, when the U.N. Security Council has passed resolutions against Israel, it has previously been during the tenure of U.S. Democratic Party Presidents who chose to use their vote in accordance with their support of the “Palestinian” Arabs.
Also, under the Oslo Accords Israel is permitted to build homes (aka "settlements") in Area C of the "West Bank". 

8.1) Commit Apartheid:
Presumably done while taking time-off from those other alleged propaganda-falsehoods: Expulsion (above), and Genocide (below).
There is no evidence of any Apartheid in, or by, Israel. 
Rather Apartheid and racism are practiced by the "Palestinian" Arabs who murder any Jews they find near the areas the "Palestinian" Arabs control. 
Example: Eyal Yifrach aged 19, Gilad Shaar aged 16, Naftali Frankel aged 16, 
murdered while hitchhiking back from their religious schools on the "West Bank": 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/j...-west-bank

Apartheid: The “Palestinian Territories” compared to South African Apartheid Bantustans?:
No one forced the “Palestinian” Arabs to sign the Oslo Accords by which they obtained 40% of the "West Bank" (Judah and Samaria) and the whole of Gaza.
If the Palestinian Territories were to be considered Apartheid then all countries having autonomous regions would have to similarly be falsely-accused of "Apartheid" !
For a list of countries having autonomous regions, see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_au...by_country

Apartheid: The "Palestinian" Arabs are (allegedly) the majority in Israel but don’t have the same rights:
This "Palestinian" Arab propaganda seeks to count-in all those "Palestinian" Arabs who do NOT want to be citizens of Israel, who signed-on to the autonomy of the Oslo Accords, to obtain their own control and elections, by which they obtained 40% of the “West Bank” and the whole of Gaza.
After the Oslo Accords, the "Palestinian" Arabs continued to:
Claim ALL of Israel, fire thousands of rockets at Israeli cities whenever the fancy takes them, and carried on their terrorism.

8.2) Reject those ‘not of their bloodline’ / an "ethnostate":

‘They [Israel] don’t accept anyone not of their bloodline’: That reverse-fact propaganda falsehood is often heard from individual “Palestinian” Arabs when interviewed by the Media and so is likely learnt by them at elementary / primary school. It describes not Israel or Judaism, but the policies and behavior of the “Palestinian” Arabs. 

Israel has Arab citizens and Arab lawmakers. Israel is a multicultural country comprising: Many ethnic groups including Jews, “Palestinian” Arabs, and people of all faiths. While Israel is a multicultural country with diverse ethnicities and religions, it is also indeed a home for the Jewish people, Re-established within the Jewish ancestral homeland (look up the Hasmonean Kingdom); something for which the Jewish people have no need to apologize - to anyone !

9) Commit Genocide:
Thus insulting our intelligence by typically being alleged while providing:
No detail, no objective-sources; zero evidence.
Presumably also done while taking time-off from those other alleged propaganda-falsehoods: Apartheid (above), and Expulsion (above).

10) Are condemned by NGOs:

The halo adorning some NGOs has become somewhat tarnished by their bias in favor of the "Palestinian" Arabs. 
Example: Amnesty International - bias against Israel: 
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/...srael.html
Example: Human Rights Watch - bias against Israel: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_...ghts_Watch

Then there are also pro-"Palestinian" Arab mouthpiece propaganda-comfort-websites. 
Here "Comfort" means websites (often of alleged NGOs) that reinforce unverifiable and prejudiced-opinion or mass-produced propaganda, within a comfort-zone that avoids: Factual-information supported by objective-sources. 
Such websites being by their very nature, Not-objective, their content is likely to be both Unverifiable, and Untrustworthy.

11) Returned "kindness" of Arabs with violence in British Mandate “Palestine”:
The allegation is reverse-fact: The Arabs attacked the Jews so often that the then Palestinian Jewish Community were forced to create defensive organizations: The Haganah, followed by the Irgun, and the Stern. Arab attacks on the Jews developed into a civil war resulting in further Jewish defense and in Israel being Re-established !
Example: 1929 Hebron massacre of Jews:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre

11.1) During the British Mandate, created “terrorist” organizations:
The more the Arabs persisted in attacking the Jewish community, the more militarized the previously peaceful Jewish community became, resulting in a force capable of defending a new state. Persistent Arab attacks resulted in the Jews creating the Jewish groups (Haganah, Irgun, Stern (Lehi)) to defend the then “Palestinian” Jewish Community against both Arab attack and the British assistance to the Arabs. The typical example of alleged “terrorism” asserted, is the bombing of the King David Hotel in 1946, the headquarters of the British Mandate Palestine’s civil administration and British army in Palestine and Transjordan. The Jewish fighting-groups can neither logically nor objectively be described as “terrorist”, since they were fighting within their ancestral homeland, while the British were an Imperial controlling power. The British favored the Arabs, allowing Arab immigration while restricting Jewish immigration. The descendants of those Arabs now claim to have been in the land for (depending on the audience) “hundreds” / “thousands”, of years (today's "Palestinian" Arabs mostly originate from Foreign-Arab-Migrant-Workers - see 5) above). 

12) Attack Islam:
"Palestinian" Arab propaganda falsely-accuses Israel / the Jews of “oppression” / "persecution", to try to dishonestly-invoke and misuse the Islamic rules on defense against persecution of Islam (see noble Quran: Surah 2, Al-Baqarah: vv. 190-193), and At-Taubah, 9: v. 36): 
The dispute over the land of Israel is not a religious dispute, but rather is due to the territorial-ambitions based on unverifiable claims, of those Arabs who now call themselves “Palestinians”, over the land of Israel.

13) Have "distorted" / "corrupted" the Jewish Scriptures:
This false-accusation refers to biased-teaching in modern times to Muslim students, rather than what the noble Quran really says. 
In the noble Quran the Islamic prophet is referring to those he believes, read the written Jewish Scripture but teach it inappropriately; he does NOT mean that the Scriptural text has been distorted / corrupted (Noble Quran, Surah 3 The House of Imran, v. 78). 
Further, the Arabic word “tahrif” used in the noble Quran has in recent times been interpreted to mean “corrupt”, but means either: “alteration” or “misinterpretation”, and past Islamic scholars translated it to mean rather: “misinterpretation”: 
http://www.judaism-islam.com/islam-teach...that-mean/

14) Annulled the Covenant:
Pro “Palestinian” Arabs often claim the giving of the land of Israel by G-d to the Jewish people is no longer valid, because Islam considers the Covenant between G-d and the Children of Israel to have ceased due to the Israelites' transgression. The Covenant between G-d and the Children of Israel (now the Jews) is everlasting, the sign for which is their Circumcision; transgression resulted in a partial and temporary exile. (Everlasting Covenant - Genesis 17.7.) The Covenant was not to cease (Leviticus 26:44-45). Where the noble Quran recognizes (“Al-Maaida” 5:21) that the land of Israel is given by Allah / G-d to the Children of Israel (Jews), the Quran is referring to the (Jewish) Scriptures (aka “Old” Testament) - IN WHICH the Covenant between Allah / G-d and the Children of Israel, IS Everlasting. 
Prophesy G-d will return the Jewish exiles to their land - Deuteronomy 30:3-5.

15) Take Quranic verses "out of context":
When quoting verses from the noble Quran this may draw the accusation of: "taking out of context". 
Were that phrase to mean simply referencing part of something, this would require one to quote the whole work! However, what the phrase really means is: Extracting a quote to assert a point, a point that is contradicted by the rest (the context) of the text from which the quote is taken; therefore so long as your quote supports on its own, the point you are making, this then does NOT constitute "taking out of context".

16) Are all converts:
Pro-“Palestinian” Arabs often falsely-claim the Jews are all descendants of “Khazar” converts (a discredited theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars), while typically providing for their racist-falsehood: No details, no credible objective-scientific sources; zero credible anthropological evidence. While Judaism accepts sincere converts, there is no evidence denying the Judah ancestry of the Jewish people as a People. The reason for the propaganda is to dishonestly evade the noble Quran’s recognition that the Land of Israel is given by Allah / G-d to the Jewish people (noble Quran, Sura “Al-Maaida” 5:21).


“Jew”=citizen of “Judah” - Judaism is both an ethnicity as well as a religion.
Israel / the Jewish people logically, cannot:
“Invade”, or Steal, or “Illegally-Settle”, or “be a Colony on”, or Illegally-Occupy,
its OWN ancestral homeland!

It is for the person making an allegation to prove it from objective-evidence !
The Jewish / Israeli case can be verified from objective historical sources. 
The claims made by the "Palestinian" Arabs cannot be verified from any objective-sources. 

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