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Judaism vs Christianity
#51
Sorry searchmyroots, I don't have an answer to your last two questions. I think the virgin birth with G‑d's Spirit at work is unique.

But I see strange things happening in Genesis 6. Some things can't really be explained (at least I can't).
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#52
Well thank you Blue Bird.

Not having an answer is an answer so we can leave it at that!

I appreciate you staying on course.

Yes, I agree, some (many) things cannot be explained.

So, should I ask about Genesis 6 since you brought it up?

Is that our next topic of discussion?
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#53
Thank you for the discussion too!

Genesis is your specialty. I think I'll sit back and listen :-)
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#54
Well, thank you but I don't think any is my specialty, I just like to read and absorb what is taught and written.

Just so you know (and I think you do), we don't always have to have counter-missionary discussions. We can open a thread in General Judaism and talk about things there are well.

But I will time to time post things in the counter-missionary part of this forum as things pop up that may be of interest to me.
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#55
Specialty is the wrong word. I remember you saying that you have studied these texts extensively and I would like to hear what you have learned about Gen. 6.

Yes sure, I would like to continue our discussions in General Judaism.

Prophecy... they're among my favorite texts, so I thought about your question about why there are differences in prophecy and what I consider fulfillment. I do not know exactly. However, the thought that crossed my mind might be an answer.

Hebrew 9 speaks about the Tent of Meeting, forshadowing the more perfect Tent in the Father's world in heaven. There is the Tent as a prophecy so to speak.

The pictorial prophecy, the Tent, contains the following description:

And he cast four rings on the four ends of the copper grating, holders for the poles. And he made the poles of acacia wood, and he overlaid them with copper. And he inserted the poles into the rings on the sides of the altar with which to carry it; he made it hollow, out of boards.

There is no such description in the Christian Bible, these things are only summarized as "of which we cannot specifically speak now".

The image of the tent refers to a completely different reality. Hebrews 9:11 Good things are coming, a greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands.

Fulfillment is G‑d appropriately divine, not human. Therefore, no mention is made of goat and dolphin skins.

In a sense, this may be the case with other prophecies as well.
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#56
No more discussion?
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#57
Sorry, been busy the past few days.

When time allows, the discussion will continue!!

Thanks for your interest.
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#58
“When we study, the goal is never to learn something from it. The ultimate goal of studying is the study itself.“ - I heard that in a video about Judaism.

It's beginning to dawn on me that my approach of leaning back and listening to what you learned was a wrong approach. Somehow the question already felt wrong when I asked it.
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#59
(08-04-2022, 10:18 PM)Blue Bird Wrote: “When we study, the goal is never to learn something from it. The ultimate goal of studying is the study itself.“ - I heard that in a video about Judaism.

I'm not sure I understand that quote, where did you hear/see that?

There must be a deeper understanding as I do think study is to learn. Maybe you won't find one answer, but you're still learning.

Curious as to where that was said.

Thanks!
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#60
Yes, it confused me too, because the things he described before are learning, learning to see things from different angles. The quote is from minute 20:15.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EunKKdNSW98
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