11-23-2020, 10:17 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-23-2020, 10:19 PM by Completed in Israel.)
(11-20-2020, 06:08 AM)Chavak Wrote: Welcome to the forum, and thank you for the introduction. I pretty much agree with what SMR stated. We see Messianics as Christians because they hold the same basic beliefs. Those who join the children of Israel are expected to give up their former beliefs. If not, as SMR also said you cannot hold fast to His covenant. Being grafted in is not a Jewish concept. But.....no one is going to try to talk you out of your beliefs. But we will always give our opinions and beliefs based in Torah and Judaism, and they are likely to conflict with yours.
I look forward to learning my brother, if you ask any Jew in Israel to this very day, "what do you think about converts?" They will say that they are 100% Jewish and the majority would even marry a convert. No better example of grafting in than that...and check the other reply I made to the other comments, you'll see if u can read Hebrew how far back "grafting in" goes.. from Abraham, and we got some major keys in Abraham, and Sarah going to Egypt with riches, this links back to "pardes` tho.
And to complete the before sentence the Jews who don't marry a convert, says it's for cultural reason "*bc they was ONCE Gentiles" aka no longer Gentiles but Jews... so to say that grafting in don't lign up with Judaism is simply a lack of understanding...maybe even a agriculture one, grafting a pear branch into a apple tree works even within science. (Which is the context of 2,000 years ago, everyone was farmers)