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| Hezbollah on the "backfoot" - Should Israel go into Lebanon or not? |
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Posted by: Robert - 09-28-2024, 07:00 PM - Forum: Israel
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Currently Hezbollah appears to be on the "backfoot", so should the Israeli army (Israel Defense Forces) attack Hezbollah to seek to force it back to the Litani river in Lebanon, thus obliging Hezbollah to comply with the provisions of United Nations resolution 1701?
In my personal opinion (though to be fair its none of my business), I feel - No!
Hezbollah constitutes part of the Iranian professional army, well equipped by Iran with modern weapons and ammunition of all sorts. It is illegally-occupying southern Lebanon against the majority wishes of the Lebanese people, even though it is allied with the Lebanese Amal party.
Hezbollah constitutes an Iranian illegal-occupation of southern Lebanon.
Any Israeli invasion of southern Lebanon would be unsustainable because the Israeli force would then be obliged to stay, to enforce Hezbollah's absence from the border with Israel.
Were the IDF not to do as well as they might be expected to do in any such action, then Hezbollah, and other terrorist groups like Hamas and Fatah, and countries in the region (with or without current peace treaties with Israel), would all: "sense weakness".
If Hezbollah were to make the mistake of invading Israel, the IDF is well capable of repelling them, bearing in mind also that Hezbollah lacks support in Lebanon, because Hezbollah's illegal-occupation of southern Lebanon is resented by most Lebanese people.
Neither Israel nor Lebanon have any claims on each other's territory and it is likely that without the Iranian/Hezbollah illegal-occupation of southern Lebanon, there might otherwise have been peace between Lebanon and Israel. As it is, it is Lebanon's responsibility that since the Hamas massacre of October 7, 2023, Hezbollah has been firing missiles at Israel.
Rather than forcing Hezbollah back from the Lebanese border with Israel, Israel might instead consider it should keep pounding-away at Hezbollah; an expensive process yet one not risking IDF soldiers.
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| answer to anti zionist jews.... |
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Posted by: COmentator - 09-16-2024, 02:40 PM - Forum: Israel
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To those who advocate all jews disolve the Republic of Israel..and put themsleves under the "protection" of Gentiles until the Anointed one reappears....
You forget the following.....
1) The L-d Promise that after being in galut Jews can go back up to Israel...
In the land of Israel:
Deuteronomy 17 warns that Jews must elect a King who is Jewish..no gentile can rule over them in the land of Israel
2) the Consequences of Jew putting themselves under the "protection" of Gentiles:
In galat:
The King of the Lodz Ghetto Chiam Rumkowski who among his crimes allowed the Germans to take children and the elderly 4 September 1942 and tried to justify it that if they were sacrified -the "Ghetto" would survive....He was saved al right..he was deported on the last train to Auschwitz in August 1944 from the Ghetto where he was executed for his crimes....a few hundred survived..but only because they were in hiding....the rest in the Ghetto died.......
Yehuda Bauer claimed that if the Russians had liberated the Ghetto...Rumkowski would be remembered in a different light.....
Primo Levi while admitting that Rumkowski could not be absolved by a tribunal yet claimed that there were "Extending circumstances..."
Isaiah Trunk in his book Judenrat attemped to revise the view of Rumkowski as traitor and collaborationist....
Yet they forget Maiminides ruling that if a Jewish community is approached by gentiles who demand that a jew be handed over to them to be killed..the community must refuse this demand.....
The Jews of Yemen lived under the "protection" of Gentiles: guards who would approach Jews with a demand "COnvert or Die'..and kill those who said no
Yet despite the evidence of the goy toward the jewish people.....
In Chicago, one congregation finds fealty to Israel intolerable (msn.com)
Israel is fighting the whole nations to save the lives of Jewish hostages....and yet only in Israel can this unbeleivable story appears.......
https://www.timesofisrael.com/jerusalem-...redi-area/
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| Ancient legal Charges, Leadership, and Hamas-manipulated Protests |
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Posted by: Robert - 09-15-2024, 03:09 PM - Forum: Israel
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Benjamin Netanyahu Prime Minister of Israel faces trial on what are arguably now, three elderly-charges (investigation from 2016, charges in 2019), concerning allegations of "corruption". To date, he has not been convicted of any of these allegations. While corruption is wrong and in normal circumstances requires punishment, these particular charges have now been in the Israeli legal system too long, such that they should now be cancelled and thus accordingly the trials. In general such cases, when matters remain in such delay, this can threaten the quality of evidence and therefore the possibility of being able to have a fair trial.
Would doing this bring the Israeli justice system into disrepute?
No. Quite the opposite because the charges have been around now for a long time, such that proceeding any further with them is what would in my personal opinion, tend to cause such disrepute.
Has P.M. Netanyahu caused this delay?
No. The delays have been substantially caused by enemy action, during which time P.M. Netanyahu has shown exemplary leadership, resisting international pressure to desist from military action against Hamas. Pressure to desist upon Israel is by the Hamas-friendly United Nations, and by many world leaders who put their personal political ambitions first while paying lip-service to Israel's security and its right to defend and deter further attack from the Palestinian Arabs.
Here is an example of information from the United States:
Quote:'[...] The court will also look to prejudice in the case. In other words, was the defendant harmed by a delay caused by the prosecution? For example, did a witness die or move away before they could be summoned to the trial? Did the delay lead to a fading of memories such that witnesses could no longer be reliable? This could all be evidence of prejudice against the defendant caused by a delay. [...]'
Extract source:
"How Long Can A Criminal Case Be Delayed?", Graham Donath - I have no connection with the latter:
https://www.gddlaw.com/2020/04/24/how-lo...e-delayed/
If the trials result in any conviction, the Israeli President should, in my personal opinion, consider a pardon, while the court should consider not imposing any punishment. In the U.K. this is known as an "absolute discharge".
Israeli citizens number nearly 10 million, compared with each Saturday claims that "hundreds of thousands" of people protest in Israel demanding the Israeli government enter into a ceasefire agreement with Hamas for the return of the Israeli hostages. Their anger incessantly implying perversely, that the Israeli government is responsible rather than Hamas.
I have discussed the pro-“Palestinian” Arab views of many of the residents of the Kibbutzim attacked on October 7th, 2023, here:
“The Families of the Hostages”:
https://www.thehebrewcafe.com/forum/show...p?tid=1319
Many of the demonstrators are also shown on Media News coverage with banners reading "Crime Minister", thus denying to the Israeli Prime Minister the right they would claim for themselves, of being innocent until proven guilty.
While the plight of the hostages is clear, it is also arguable that this nevertheless must take second place against preventing what happened to them, from happening to other Israeli families in the future. The protesters serve, as manipulated by Hamas and as the protesters must well know, the interests of Hamas; thus serving the enemy in time of war. The protesters should be ashamed since they put their personal tragedies above the safety of the country, above the safety of other Israeli families in the future, and above the morale of the IDF.
The understandable plight of the families of the hostages has been hijacked by those who seek to protect Hamas and seek the destruction of Israel.
Could these demonstrators have the effect of holding-up any release of the hostages?:
Two of the possible objectives by the Palestinian Arabs in continuing to grip the hostages would likely be:
To cause the families of the hostages to campaign in manner such that the effect thereof is to make less effective or even curtail, the Israeli military response.
To cause dissension and discord within Israeli society.
The Palestinian Arabs will no doubt be encouraged to continue to grip the hostages while such objectives continue.
The demonstrations therefore only encourage the Palestinian Arabs to continue gripping the hostages.
Note:
Regarding any evidence already given in the above legal cases, please see my following post under the heading "Additional".
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