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| Exodus 8 & 9 |
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Posted by: gib65 - 08-09-2024, 01:58 AM - Forum: Judaism General
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Hello everyone,
It's been a while since I last posted but I do intend on continuing my project of working my way through Exodus and asking questions chapter by chapter. My source is here: https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/9862
I'm covering chapter 8 & 9 in this post, and I'm noticing a pattern in which any time God wants to bring about one of the plagues or perform any miraculous act, he tells Moses to instruct Aaron to stretch out his staff to make it happen.
Exodus 8:1 Wrote:The Lord said to Moses, "Say to Aaron, stretch forth your hand with your staff over the rivers, over the canals, and over the ponds, and bring up the frogs on the land of Egypt."
Exodus 8:12 Wrote:The Lord said to Moses, "Say to Aaron, 'Stretch forth your staff and strike the dust of the earth, and it shall become lice throughout the entire land of Egypt.' "
Aaron is obvious instrumental in this role, but why specifically did God intend for Aaron to play this role? He could have instructed Moses himself to stretch out his staff, so why Aaron?
Exodus 9:13-16 Wrote:13 The Lord said to Moses, "Rise early in the morning and stand erect before Pharaoh, and say to him, 'So said the Lord, the God of the Hebrews, "Let My people go so that they may worship Me. 14 Because this time, I am sending all My plagues into your heart and into your servants and into your people, in order that you know that there is none like Me in the entire earth. 15 For if now I had stretched forth My hand, and I had smitten you and your people with pestilence, you would have been annihilated from the earth. 16 But, for this [reason] I have allowed you to stand, in order to show you My strength and in order to declare My name all over the earth.
This is a very strange passage. This is said by God before warning Pharaoh about the next plague (hail), and for some reason he says "I am sending all my plagues into your heart and into your servants and into your people..." What does this mean? How are the plagues "sent into Pharaoh's heart"? And does God mean all the plagues so far? Or all the plagues from here on in? Or all the plagues in total? And does this have anything to do with Exodus 9:12: "But the Lord strengthened Pharaoh's heart, and he did not hearken to them, as the Lord spoke to Moses," which comes just before this passage? What does it means to "strengthen" Pharaoh's heart? Is this to be contrasted with Pharaoh "hardening" his heart (which he did on his own accord up until this point). And why would God decide to do this? He says that it's "in order that you know that there is none like Me in the entire earth" and more interestingly "For if now I had stretched forth My hand, and I had smitten you and your people with pestilence, you would have been annihilated from the earth". Why does God choose to do this now? Based on the latter passage (about being annihilated from the earth), it sounds like God is saying he let Pharaoh handle all the plagues on his own up until the point where he couldn't take it anymore, at which point God "strengthen his heart" so that he could take some more. But why? Is God trying to avoid Pharaoh's annihilation in exchange for his concession? Give him enough strength to reach the point where he concedes rather than gets annihilated? And it seems that God wants specifically for Pharaoh to concede because he sees "that there is none like [God] in the entire earth".
^ Is this the correct interpretation?
Exodus 9:21-23 Wrote:21 Thereupon, Pharaoh summoned Moses and Aaron, and he said, "Go, sacrifice to your God in the land." 22 But Moses said, "It is improper to do that, for we will sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians to God our Lord. Will we sacrifice the deity of the Egyptians before their eyes, and they will not stone us? 23 Let us go [for] a three day journey in the desert and sacrifice to the Lord, our God, as He will say to us." 24 Pharaoh said, "I will let you go out, and you will sacrifice to the Lord, your God, in the desert, but do not go far away; entreat [Him] on my behalf."
This seems like a major compromise on the part of Moses and Aaron. I thought the goal was to get Pharaoh to free the slaves permanently, but here it seems Pharaoh is proposing an extremely reduced offer in exchange for the plague of noxious creatures to stop and Moses accepts. Is it understood that even if Pharaoh lets the Hebrews journey in the desert for 3 days to sacrifice to their God, this will not be the end? That Moses will return with his original demand lest the next plague be inflicted?
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| Media Bias |
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Posted by: Robert - 08-03-2024, 04:26 PM - Forum: Israel
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Recently "France 24 English" has been boasting to its audience that its French state-owned holding company "France Médias Monde" (of which France 24 is a subsidiary), has achieved the following award:
Quote:'France Médias Monde has achieved the Journalism Trust Initiative certification (JTI) from Reporters Without Borders, securing a perfect score of 100% in the overall rating. [...] including':
'accuracy [...] verified, and balanced information [...]'
Source:
https://www.francemediasmonde.com/en/pre...nitiative/
"France 24 English" reports on Israel give an impression of bias in favor of the Palestinian Arabs, because its reports mostly describe the news from the Palestinian Arab side, in particular about the Israeli war of deterrence and defense against Gaza, while most of the Israelis and pundits it interviews appear to be selected to be opposed to Israeli policy.
"France 24 English" news readers usually report Gaza casualty figures without stating they are:
Unverified,
include Palestinian Arab combatants,
and source from Hamas.
I've discussed previous instances of France 24 English bias against Israel, here:
"How biased against Israel do you perceive the Media to be?":
https://www.thehebrewcafe.com/forum/show... - pid5279
During the Armenia / Azerbaijan conflict over the disputed territory of Nagorno-Karabakh, (apart from interviewing the Azerbaijan president) "France 24 English" reported that conflict from the Arminian side.
"France 24 English" also appear to show bias in the upcoming United States General Election, against former President Trump:
Please consider the first five minutes of the following video:
[Heading:] "FULL VIDEO: Trump answers questions at Black journalists' convention NABJ in Chicago | KTVU" [July 31, 2024]:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-ihCI_lApA
Unfortunately such links may become invalid, but you can reacquire this video, by looking up (without the quotes):
"Full Video Trump answers questions at Black journalists' convention NABJ in Chicago".
Please may I invite you to now compare that with the following France 24 English report (you will need to turn on the video's audio.):
[Heading:] "Trump questions Kamala Harris's racial identity at Black journalists' convention":
https://www.france24.com/en/video/202408...convention
If you don't "like" former President Trump, the above comparison is unlikely to change your view, however:
Do you consider that the France 24 English report is a fair representation of the original recording, referencing the "JTI" award (above), regarding the following:
Do you consider it: "accurate"?
Do you consider it: "fair"?
Do you consider it: "balanced"?
In the full MSN version (above), the ABC journalist makes various accusations against former President Trump, including:
Quote:'[...] telling four Congresswomen of color to go back to where they came from [...]'
Source:
See the link for the MSN video above.
Since what former President Trump had posted was that the Congresswomen in question, should:
'go back' 'fix' things and 'Then 'come back',
what the ABC journalist said is so misleading as to be false.
Quote:'[...] Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back [...]'
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Twitter [now X]: 7:27 PM - Jul 14, 2019
Extract source:
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/stat...43?lang=en
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| hello new here |
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Posted by: Kissinger - 07-30-2024, 05:07 AM - Forum: Introductions
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Hello as to the name yes it is mine I am Jewish of German descent
Why is the American government silent as to the war and hostages SAY THEIR NAMES why are we tolerating this ?
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| Introduction. |
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Posted by: GMS Cuban. - 07-27-2024, 03:16 AM - Forum: Introductions
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Hi I am known as GMS Cuban Alberto. I am an ethnic Cuban of Spaniard descent and an American citizen. Viva España La Madre Patria. Cuban Jews call each other Jewbans. I hear there are at least 10,000 Cuban Jewbans in Israel. I am a Republican. I am a strong supporter of Israel and the Jewish People. I admire how you turned deserts into farmlands and the modern, democratic, multi political party, capitalist $ nation and strong military power you have created. I RP the nation of NS Jerusalem Israel, with Pics of their current real world nation leaders and real world statistics as much as possible. President Trump is a strong supporter of Israel and the Jewish People, even has Jewish grand kids in his family.
Contrary to popular belief it is not always easy to gather real world statistics, because different sources vary and they are not always easy to find.
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