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| Are the Palestinian Arabs really as they claim, native (aka indigenous), to Israel? |
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Posted by: Robert - 11-01-2021, 08:43 PM - Forum: Israel
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The Jewish people have Judah heritage (“Jew”=citizen of “Judah” - Judaism is both an ethnicity as well as a religion).
The Jewish people are native to their ancestral-homeland of Israel, with unbroken presence there from Biblical times:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographi...e_(region)
By comparison, the “Palestinian” Arabs arrived in the land historically-speaking in recent times, as shown below.
The name “Palestine” was used by the Romans to attempt to negate Israel / Judah as names for the land. Today the “Palestinian” Arabs and their primarily antisemitic supporters, use the name “Palestine” for the same purpose.
Who were the Arabs living in British “Palestine” Mandate administered Israel?
There has never been an indigenous “Palestine” / Arab sovereign state in the land of Israel upon which the “Palestinian” Arabs could base any claim to any part of Israel.
Following the Ottoman Turkish defeat in the First World War, the League of Nations in 1922 resurrecting the name “Palestine” from Roman occupation, authorized a British Mandate; an administrative region ruled by a foreign imperial power, it was an area that later would be today’s: Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Territories - Please compare the second and third maps down, at:
http://www.shamrak.com/Masada2000-Histor...estine.htm
JEWISH citizens of the British Mandate were Palestinian: Irrespective of race or religion citizens of the British Mandate were “Palestinian”:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians
Extracts from five British “Government of Palestine” passports,
from which it can be seen that JEWISH citizens of the Mandate were “Palestinian”:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/p6hjhurn7...s.pdf/file
The Media of the time referred to the British Mandate inhabitants, as:
“Palestinian Arabs”, / “Palestinian Jews”, or as: “Arabs” / “Jews”.
The “Palestinian Arabs” dropped the name “Arab” because they do not want you to understand they mostly originate from Foreign-Arab-Migrant-Workers who came to the land of Israel just prior to, and during the British Mandate, to take advantage of higher wages through Jewish returnee-exiles:
Quote:“[...] most Arabs in British Mandate Palestine were migrant workers and descendants of the 1832-1947 wave of Arab/Muslim immigration from Egypt, the Sudan, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Yemen, Libya, North Africa, Bosnia, India, Afghanistan, etc. While the British Mandate encouraged Arab immigration, it blocked Jewish immigration.”
Extract source:
http://theettingerreport.com/arab-migrat...n-society/
Quote:“[...] the Zionist project was very attractive to Arabs who were drawn to Palestine by the good wages, healthcare and sanitation offered by the Jews. [...] the Arab population of Palestine increased the most in cities where there were large numbers of Jews [...]
[British] restrictions were placed on Jewish immigration in order to appease Arab troublemakers. However, the situation regarding Arab settlement was much more lax. [...]
the Arab population of Palestine had been in a state of flux for centuries and that the overwhelming majority were migrants from the rest of the Arab world and/or the Ottoman empire. This is important because it tells us that the postmodern notion of a deep-rooted Palestinian Arab history/culture is bogus. [...]
This explains why, historically, Arabs never talked about Palestinian identity - because there wasn’t one. They were Egyptian, Syrian, Moroccan, Iraqi and Ottoman Arabs, and many of them expressed allegiance to the concept of a Greater Syria.”
Extracts source:
“Arab Immigration to Historic Palestine: A Survey”, by Richard Mather:
https://richardmatherblog.wordpress.com/2015/05/
Quote:“Not until the Zionists had arrived in numbers did the Arab population begin to augment itself. The introduction of European standards of wage and life acted like a magnet on the entire Near East. Abruptly, Palestine became an Arab center of attraction. By 1922, after a quarter century of Jewish colonization [Jewish returnee-exiles], their [Arab] numbers mushroomed to 488,000.”
Extract source:
https://www.meforum.org/6275/were-the-ar...-palestine
Quote:“Which towns, villages, and cities [of the British Mandate] offered the higher economic opportunity? Analyzing the 1922 and 1931 demographic data by sub-district and separating those sub-districts of Palestine that eventually became 1948 Israel—that is, sub-districts that had relatively large Jewish populations (with accompanying Jewish capital and modern technology)—from those that were not designated as part of 1948 Israel, identified not only the direction of Arab Palestinian migration within Palestine but its magnitude as well. [32]
[...] That over 10 percent of the 1931 Arab Palestinian population in those sub-districts that eventually became Israel had immigrated to those sub-districts within the 1922-31 years is a datum of considerable significance. It is consistent with the fragmentary evidence of illegal migration to and within Palestine; it supports the idea of linkage between economic disparities and migratory impulses—a linkage universally accepted; it undercuts the thesis of “spatial stickiness” attributed by some scholars to the Arab Palestinian population of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries; and it provides strong circumstantial evidence that the illegal Arab immigration into Palestine, like that within Palestine, was of consequence as well.”
Footnote:
32. For a sub-district by sub-district count of population and for the methodology used to separate subdivisions that became 1948 Israel and those that did not, see Fred M. Gottheil, “Arab Immigration into Pre-State Israel: 1922-1931,” Middle Eastern Studies, 9 (1973):
315-24. The analysis here is a summary version of this article.
Extracts source:
“The Smoking Gun: Arab Immigration into Palestine, 1922-1931”
by Fred M. Gottheil
Middle East Forum - Middle East Quarterly, Winter 2003, Vol. 10, No. 1, pp. 53-64:
https://www.meforum.org/522/the-smoking-...-palestine
The “Palestinian” Arabs considering themselves Arab were opposed to being called a “People” until the 1960’s, when they decided it fitted with their intention to steal the land of Israel from its indigenous Jews:
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11401...ian-people
Why did the “Palestinian” Arabs decide to falsely-claim they are native to the land of Israel?
The purpose of League of Nations (later the United Nations) Mandates such as the one awarded to Great Britain, was to develop the territory for the benefit of its native people:
Quote:“Two governing principles formed the core of the Mandate System, being non-annexation of the territory and its administration as a “sacred trust of civilisation” to develop the territory for the benefit of its native people.”
Extract source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Nations_mandate
84 of 100 of the highest incidence Palestinian surnames (Palestine region in 2004), had highest incidence outside that region:
My extract source document:
“Country Origin of Palestinian Arab Surnames upd.pdf” - information source “forebears.io”:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/9d115bv6w...d.pdf/file
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| Are the Palestinian Arabs really as ‘Attached’ as they claim, to the Land of Israel? |
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Posted by: Robert - 10-31-2021, 05:16 PM - Forum: Israel
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The reader may consider how there could be propaganda that the “Palestinian” Arabs have allegedly any sincere emotional-attachment to the Jewish ancestral-homeland of Israel, when:
The “Palestinian” Arabs attempted to take over Jordan by force in 1970 to 1971:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_in_Jordan
And:
The “Palestinian” Arabs attempted to take over Lebanon by force
and were likely the cause of its civil war, in 1975:
Quote:“On April 13, 1975, the leader of the Kata’ib party, Pierre Gemayel, was attending church in Ain Rummaneh, a Christian suburb of Beirut. It was at this time that Palestinian guerillas approached the church in two cars, opening fire and killing four Christians, among them, a prominent member of the Kata’ib party (Vocke 39). A few hours later, in retaliation for the attack, Christian militias stopped a bus in Ain Rummaneh carrying twenty-two armed Palestinians, shooting and killing all twenty-two of them (Vocke 39). These events, considered the first confrontations of the Lebanese Civil War, sparked clashes across the city of Beirut. The conflict soon developed into a religious one, with Palestinians, backed by Shiite, Sunni and Druze left wing militia fighters, attacking Maronite and other Christian sections of East Beirut, and the right wing Kata’ib and Maronite militias attacking targets in Palestinian and Muslimdominated West Beirut (Vocke 41). The war had officially begun.”
[Source referred:]
Vocke, Harald. The Lebanese War. New York: St. Martin’s Press, 1978. Print.
Extract source:
Printed page numbers 36 to 37 (PDF page numbering 40 to 41), of:
“Palestinian Power in Lebanon: The Development of Palestinian Militancy and its Role in the Outbreak of the Lebanese Civil War” - Christine E. Ganley -
Trinity College Digital Repository / 4-1-2012:
https://digitalrepository.trincoll.edu/c...ext=theses
Alternative URL - (Copy saved to):
https://www.mediafire.com/?k000avq39avq6cf
The “Palestinian” Arabs arrived in the land of Israel well after the Jewish people, the Jews having had previous sovereign states in the land of Israel.
The “Palestinian” Arabs falsely-allege Israeli Jews all came from Europe. Some Jews are returnee-exiles, since the Jewish people have Judah heritage (“Jew”=citizen of “Judah” - Judaism is both an ethnicity as well as a religion). Yet the Jewish people are indigenous to their ancestral-homeland of Israel, with unbroken presence there from Biblical times:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographi...e_(region)
The Jewish people have had not only an unbroken presence in their ancestral-homeland of Israel since Biblical times, but also previous sovereign states in the land, for example the post-Biblical Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom (including the "West Bank", Gaza, and Golan Heights), with its capital of (what is now East) Jerusalem; between 110 BCE / 754 BH and 63 BCE / 706 BH:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasmonean_dynasty
The name “Palestine” is the Roman-imposed rename of Israel / Judah.
Who were the Arabs living in British “Palestine” Mandate administered Israel?
There has never been an indigenous “Palestine” / Arab sovereign state in the land of Israel upon which the “Palestinian” Arabs could base any claim to any part of Israel.
Following the Ottoman Turkish defeat in the First World War, the League of Nations in 1922 resurrecting the name “Palestine” from Roman occupation, authorized a British Mandate; an administrative region ruled by a foreign imperial power, it was an area that later would be today’s: Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Territories - Please compare the second and third maps down, at:
http://www.shamrak.com/Masada2000-Histor...estine.htm
JEWISH citizens of the British Mandate were Palestinian: Irrespective of race or religion citizens of the British Mandate became: “Palestinian”.
Extracts from five British “Government of Palestine” passports,
from which it can be seen that JEWISH citizens of the Mandate were “Palestinian”:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/p6hjhurn7...s.pdf/file
The Media of the time referred to Mandate inhabitants, as:
“Palestinian Arabs”, / “Palestinian Jews”, or as: “Arabs” / “Jews”.
The prior Ottoman Turkish empire did not use any such political name as “Palestine”, but rather Ottoman-occupied Judah / Israel was within the Ottoman province of “Syria”:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Syria
The “Palestinian Arabs” dropped the name “Arab” so you should not understand they mostly originate from Foreign-Arab-Migrant-Workers who came to the land of Israel just prior to, and during the British Mandate, to take advantage of higher wages through Jewish returnee-exiles:
https://richardmatherblog.wordpress.com/2015/05/
The “Palestinian” Arabs having considered themselves to be Arab only, this is why they were opposed to being called a “People” until the 1960’s, when they decided it fitted with their intention to steal the land of Israel from its indigenous Jews:
http://www.targetofopportunity.com/pales..._truth.htm
Research (2014) on 1,000 “Palestinian” Arab surnames ranked them (numbered them) in order of the highest instances of each surname found in the Palestine region. It also then identified the country(ies) having the highest incidence of those surnames; whether of “Palestine” or other countries.
I examined the first 100 of those ranked “Palestinian” Arab surnames (from the total of 1,000 ranked surnames), which makes a 10% sample.
Of the sample first 100 ranked “Palestinian” Arab surnames:
16 surnames had the highest incidence in the Palestine region.
The remaining 84 “Palestinian” Arab surnames had the highest incidence in countries other than the Palestine region, as follows:
35 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Egypt.
11 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Iraq.
9 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Yemen.
7 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Syria.
6 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Jordan.
6 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Pakistan.
3 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Nigeria.
2 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Sudan.
2 ranked surnames had highest incidence in India.
1 ranked surname had highest incidence in Tanzania.
1 ranked surname had highest incidence in Saudia Arabia.
1 ranked surname had highest incidence in Bangladesh.
Total 84
Summary-extract of the highest 10 ranked “Palestinian” Arab surnames (see source below for full list and detail):
1) Awad:
Highest incidence country: Sudan.
2) Al Najjar:
Highest incidence country: Yemen.
3) El Masry:
Highest incidence country: Jordan.
4) Odeh:
Highest incidence country: Nigeria.
5) Hamdan:
Highest incidence country: Syria.
6) Saleh:
Highest incidence country: Yemen.
7) Al Khatib:
Highest incidence country: Syria.
8) Shaheen:
Highest incidence country: Egypt.
9) Manssour:
Highest incidence country: Egypt.
10) Mousa:
Highest incidence country: Egypt.
My extract source document:
84 of 100 highest incidence Palestinian surnames (Palestine region in 2004), had highest incidence outside that region: See my “Country Origin of Palestinian Arab Surnames upd.pdf” - Information source “forebears.io”:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/9d115bv6w4z4kzb/Country+Origin+of+Palestinian+Arab+Surnames+upd.pdf/file
Whereas the Jewish people have Judah heritage (“Jew”=citizen of “Judah”), by comparison the “Palestinian” Arabs obtained an artificial, unique, and arguably by common-sense a bogus refugee status, that passes through the generations, from the Arab-dominated United Nations (below). This to inflate the number of alleged-refugees for bundling with their false-claim for a “right of return”, as a (fraudulent) means of “invading” Israel. It is a refugee status allowed in no other refugee situation - see:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/tw84ikb2o...s.pdf/file
The “Palestinian” Arabs obtained their bogus refugee status from the Arab-dominated United Nations.
U.N. polices are fully-complicit with “Palestinian” Arab propaganda falsely-denying Jewish roots in the land of Israel. The U.N. built-in pro-“Palestinian” Arab bias is due to its block-vote of what is now up to 56 Arab and additional Islamic-aligned countries (e.g. U.N. member states that are now also members of the “Organization of Islamic Cooperation” and follow its policies when voting in the U.N.), plus the influence of Arab oil money with consequential trading-power; compared to Israel being just one country.
As the reader will appreciate such “Palestinian” Arab bogus-refugee status that passes through the generations, is something not permitted in any other refugee situation. This of course dishonestly distorts the number of refugees. Such dishonesty based on political bias cannot be imposed on Israel.
The “Palestinian” Arabs also seek to mislead others by calling many of their towns “refugee camps” in order to fraudulently tap your international aid money.
How do the “Palestinian” Arab fake-refugee-camps obtain their status of “refugee camps”? By the presence within them of those bogus “Palestinian Arab refugees” having their unique bogus-refugee status that passes through the generations:
https://www.unrwa.org/palestine-refugees
By the way, do take a look at the “Palestinian” flag and compare with the Jordanian flag - identical with the Jordanian flag, save for the missing white star.
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| Are the Palestinian Arabs as they claim really victims, or are they victim-makers? |
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Posted by: Robert - 10-31-2021, 04:28 PM - Forum: Israel
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As the reader will be aware, the “Palestinian” Arabs persistently and falsely-play the “victim-card” as part of their propaganda campaign. “Palestinian” Arab propaganda is highly successful, comparable to that of Nazi Germany, asserting the Jews are the fake-cause of all Palestinian perceived issues.
In reality:
> The “Palestinian” Arabs are no “victims”.
> Rather, the “Palestinian” Arabs are victim-makers.
Alleged “Palestinian Plight” is “Palestinian” Arab propaganda - Were there any such “Plight”, it would be due-entirely to the nature of Palestinian self-government: Hate-based, conflict-policies, war-based economy, misusing your Aid-money (corruption, rockets, attack tunnels), ignoring the welfare of their own people.
The “Palestinian” Arabs are also often falsely-referred to as the “hapless Palestinians”, whereas in reality they are bankrolled by the “European Union”:
The E.U. paid the “Palestinian” Arabs as quote: “humanitarian funding”:
€22.5 million in 2019,
€23.7 million in 2020,
and €26.5 million in 2022,
- being figures updated yearly on the following webpage:
Under the heading “How are we helping?”:
https://civil-protection-humanitarian-ai...lestine_en
The “European Union” and the United States bankroll the “Palestinian” Arabs, while fully aware that the “Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund” rewards murder of Israeli Jewish children, e.g. Hallel Yaffa Ariel, aged 13.
What do the allegedly “hapless Palestinians” do with all their U.S. and E.U. taxpayers’ money?
It is used for, or frees-up funding for, paying their reward-“pension” for the murder of Israeli Jews; typically civilians including children:
Quote:‘The Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund are two funds operated by the Palestinian Authority (PA). The Foundation for the Care of the Families of Martyrs pays monthly cash stipends to the families of Palestinians killed, injured, or imprisoned while carrying out violence against Israel.[1] The Prisoners Fund makes disbursements to Palestinians imprisoned in Israeli jails. In 2016, the PA paid out about NIS 1.1 billion (US$303 million) in stipends and other benefits.[2]
Critics often call the fund "pay for slay" and blame the payments for encouraging terrorism. [...]’
(Please see webpage for citations.)
Extract source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinia...rtyrs_Fund
Remember, to qualify to be murdered by a “Palestinian” Arab you must be Jewish and there is no lower age restriction. A reward-pension is then paid to the family of the terrorist out of “The Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund” (see above). Part of this funding is French and German government money who launder it through the “European (Union) Commission”, as: “humanitarian aid”.
The “Palestinian” Arabs cynically whitewash their anti-Jewish hate-war as:
“uprising”, “defence”, “desperation”, “struggle”, “resistance”:
Here are some examples from the “Palestinian” Arab on-going anti-Jewish hate-war, where their propaganda typically refers to any consequential security measures as “Israeli-oppression”:
Maia Dee, 20, her sister Rina, 15, and their mother, died in the “West Bank” (Judah and Samaria) when their car came under fire from “Palestinian” Arab terrorists; report May 4, 2023:
https://news.sky.com/story/palestinian-g...d-12872594
Quote:'23 August 2019 ... Israeli girl ... Rina Shnerb [age 17 was killed; she] had been hiking with her brother Dvir and her father Eitan near a natural spring outside Dolev when an improvised explosive device blew up.'
Extract source:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49447035
Israeli girl, Hallel Yaffa Ariel, aged 13, fatally stabbed in her bedroom in West Bank by a Palestinian terrorist, June 30, 2016, The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/j...iryat-arba
16 year old in-love Jewish Israeli boy Ophir Rakhum lured to his death by “Palestinian” Arabs; report November 7, 2003:
https://www.smh.com.au/technology/palest...dhqlv.html
October 7, 2023: “Palestinian” Arab invasion from Gaza, conducting barbarian war crimes such as: murder including children - including babies, rape, kidnapping, theft, arson, and the firing of thousands of rockets at Israeli cities:
Child casualties at the Kfar Aza kibbutz referred to in the following source:
[Heading:] “[...] how Kfar Aza kibbutz massacre unfolded”:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/dbcc3...7a53190209
“Palestinian” Arab propaganda false-complaints of:
“oppression” / “persecution” / “discrimination” / “(mis) treatment” / “racism” / “being treated as 2nd class”,
are Palestinian frustration at Israeli security measures for reducing Jewish casualties resulting from the Palestinian anti-Jewish war of ethnic-hatred and territorial ambitions, targeting Israeli Jewish civilians as policy including children (see above).
While Israeli security measures are due to the “Palestinian” Arab anti-Jewish war of ethnic-hatred carried out for Palestinian territorial-ambition, “Palestinian” Arab propaganda falsely-accuses Israel / the Jews of “oppression” so as to create a hoax of “Persecution”. The reason is to seek to dishonestly-invoke and misuse the Islamic rules on defense against persecution of Islam (see noble Quran: Surah Al-Baqarah: 190-193).
Perhaps people may like to consider that a “victim” is not normally characterised by the following, as are the “Palestinian” Arabs:
> Run their own territories, from which they launch terrorist attacks and rockets against Israel (while falsely-complaining the resulting Israeli economic measures are “collective punishment”).
> Conduct a war of territorial-ambition and ethnic-hatred against Israel, targeting as policy civilians including children.
No wonder anti-Semites display such emotional-support for the “Palestinian” Arabs !
> Convert their International Aid Money (your Tax Money by the way) into:
Rockets, weapons of all types, attack tunnels, corruption.
> Have poor infrastructure, with their available funds poured into their conflict-based economy, ignoring the welfare of their people.
Israel was Re-established following a United Nations Partition Plan (two-state solution) under resolution 181. In 1947 the “Palestinian” Arabs opposed the U.N. Partition Plan by starting a civil war to instead take ALL the land and expel or murder the Jews:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947%E2%80..._Palestine
“Palestinian” Arab propaganda falsely-alleges the Re-establishment of Israel caused: a “great injustice” / “nakba” (“catastrophe” / “disaster”) to the “Palestinian” Arabs.
In reality:
> The “Palestinian” Arabs violently rejected the Arab state of the United Nations Partition Plan;
> Jordan and Egypt occupied the land proposed for an Arab state under the U.N. Partition Plan (approximating to the West Bank and Gaza);
> BOTH Arabs and Jews, became war-refugees;
> The Palestinians falsely-claim with no evidence of any such policy that they were expelled from the land; Jews were indeed expelled by the Arabs as policy:
The Jews were expelled from East Jerusalem (the “Old City”) by the Jordanians in 1948:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamizati...occupation
> “Palestinian” Arabs live and work in Israel.
Therefore the reader is entitled to be skeptical about “Palestinian” Arab propaganda alleging a fantasy-injustice.
Once the “Palestinian” Arabs had tricked Israel into giving them autonomy of part of the West Bank (40%) and the whole of Gaza under the Oslo Accords, the Palestinians since:
> Do not sincerely negotiate a peace treaty,
> make an unverifiable false-claim to ALL the land of Israel,
> fire thousands of rockets at Israeli cities whenever the fancy takes them,
> attack Israeli Jewish civilians as policy including children (see above),
> and committed the October 7th, 2023 massacre of Israelis (see above).
[Part of: "Uncle Bob's Handy-Guide to the Palestinian surreal-narrative".
View more, by doing (if any error - try first logging-in):
Click on my username > Within the 'Robert's Forum Info' box, under 'Total Threads:', click: "Find All Threads"; and they are the Threads prefixed/tagged: “Israel”.]
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| When alleged “Criticism” against Israel is really Anti-Semitism |
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Posted by: Robert - 10-30-2021, 06:06 PM - Forum: Israel
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Contributors often claim they are only “criticizing”, Israel, but what they really mean is to:
“make unsubstantiated-accusations against”,
which they choose to do against Israel, and not other countries !
When are falsehoods against Israel typically due to anti-Semitism, and how can you recognise “Palestinian” Arab Falsehood-Propaganda?
UNSUBSTANTIATED-allegations against Israel that insult the reader’s intelligence by being typically-provided with:
No detail, no objective-sources; zero evidence.
When comments have such characteristics we can conclude that the antisemitic psychological-desire for the genocide of the Jewish people now presents as the desire to destroy Israel (see example questions below).
Supporting the “Palestinian” Arab war of ethnic-hatred against Israeli Jews is anti-Semitism:
> The “Palestinian” Arabs want ALL the land of Israel (to which they have zero-verifiable claims), to expel or murder the Jews, as is shown by what is taught by the Palestinian education system and from the “Palestinian National Charter”.
> The primary support for the “Palestinian” Arabs is from anti-semites:
Example questions (collected from the now closed Yahoo Answers) characterized by anti-Jewish hatred posing as anti-Israel / anti-Zionist:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/c3yzp99kw...c.pdf/file
Supporting anti-Semitism, is anti-Semitism; pretending otherwise constitutes a form of appeasement of the anti-Jewish policies of the Palestinians; appeasement is a failed policy.
The “Palestinian” Arabs typically find their propaganda is “pushing at an open door”, many being Willing to believe them while Unwilling to verify if it is factual, due to anti-Semitism (about which many are in denial).
Nor therefore do such people require any moral standard from the “Palestinian” Arabs.
Supporting Palestinian nationalism would cease to be antisemitism, only once it ceases its policy to destroy Israel and expel or murder its Jews.
Supporting anti-Semitism is anti-Semitism:
The Palestinian Education Authority teaches Holocaust-Denial and admiration of the Nazis:
https://palwatch.org/page/4641
Image: “Palestinian protesters carry a transparent kite defaced with a swastika ... [Gaza border] - [AFP/Getty Images].”:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ot-at.html
Supporting anti-Semitism is anti-Semitism:
No evidence Israel targets civilians, but the “Palestinian” Arabs target Israeli Jews as policy including children (see below) - No wonder anti-Semites display such emotional-support for the “Palestinian” Arabs !
The Palestinians cynically whitewash their anti-Jewish hate-war as:
“uprising”, “defence”, “desperation”, “struggle”, “resistance”.
The “Palestinian” Arabs are paid a reward-“pension” to murder Jewish Israelis including children (while being funded by the “European Union”):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinia...rtyrs_Fund
Example from the “Palestinian” Arab on-going anti-Jewish hate-war, where their propaganda typically refers to any consequential security measures as “Israeli-oppression”:
Quote:'23 August 2019 ... Israeli girl ... Rina Shnerb [age 17 was killed; she] had been hiking with her brother Dvir and her father Eitan near a natural spring outside Dolev when an improvised explosive device blew up.'
Extract source:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49447035
Remember: To qualify to be murdered by a “Palestinian” Arab, you must be Jewish and there is no lower age restriction - Example above, and you can also look up the murder of Hallel Yaffa Ariel aged 13.
“Palestinian” Arab anti-Israel hate-propaganda often of stock-phrases, seems repetitively-produced, “copy-pasted” as if it originated “robotically” from a factory-floor.
Consider: Have you tried getting pro-“Palestinian” Arabs to prove either their false-allegations against Israel or their false-claims on Israel or Jerusalem, with objective-evidence?
Collected from posted-questions and answers (on the now closed Yahoo Answers) from anti-Semitic (posing as anti-Zionist / anti-Israel) contributors, Israel / the Jewish people apparently-manage to do all the following, being falsehoods alleged with zero-evidence:
“Oppression” / “(mis) treatment” / “discrimination” / “racism” / “persecution” / “being treated as 2nd class”:
Terms used by “Palestinian” Arab propaganda to falsely-complain about Israeli security measures, due to the Palestinian on-going war of ethnic-hatred against Israeli Jews including children - see source above. Are also Palestinian frustration at Israeli security obstructing Palestinian terrorism.
Likewise:
“Atrocities” against / “brutality” / “cruelty” to / “Holocaust” against / “human rights abuse” against / “Nazi-like behaviour” towards / “plight” of / “victimization” of / “war crimes” against.
That Israeli economic measures (aka “blockade”) on Gaza allegedly-is: “collective punishment”:
While failing to mention the economic measures are by both Egypt and Israel; by Israel due to (indiscriminate) Palestinian rocket attacks on Israeli cities.
That Palestinian Gaza rocket and mortar attacks on Israel are allegedly-due to the Israeli economic measures on Gaza: Such is “Palestinian” Arab “Psychological Projection” propaganda, because the Israeli economic measures on Gaza are due to the prior and continuing “Palestinian” Arab rocket and mortar attacks on Israel.
The use for propaganda of normally neutral-terms for falsely-implying wrongdoing by Israel, for example:
“actions” against, “behavior” towards, “doing” to, “(mis-) treatment” of.
“Ethnic-cleansing”:
Thus insulting our intelligence, by also providing: No detail, no objective-sources; zero evidence.
“Eviction” / “expulsion” / “intentional-displacement”:
Presumably when taking time-off from doing all the: “Actions” , “Apartheid”, “Atrocities”, “brutality”, “cruelty”, “genocide”, “Holocausting”, “human rights abuse”, “Nazism”, “oppression”.
No evidence of any Israeli policy to expel Arabs, but the “Palestinian” Arab wars have always had the expulsion (or murder) of the Jews as primary-objective, as in the “Palestinian National Charter” - Example: All Jews expelled in 1948 from East Jerusalem by the Jordanian illegal-occupiers, below.
Doing “Apartheid”:
Presumably when taking time-off from doing the “genocide”, “ethnic cleansing”, “expulsion”.
Having expelled any Jewish population from all areas under “Palestinian” Arab control, the Palestinians then falsely-claimed “Apartheid” against Israel !
The “Palestinian” Arab autonomous territories alleged to be Apartheid “Bantustans”:
No one forced the “Palestinian” Arabs to sign up to the Oslo Accords, underwhich they gained their autonomous territories; while breaching the Accords by:
Continuing to falsely-claim ALL the land, firing thousands of rockets at Israeli cities, continuing terrorism, and committed the October 7th, 2023 massacre of Israelis.
Gaza allegedly-being a:
“concentration camp” / “ghetto” / Nazi “Warsaw Ghetto” / “prison” / “Penal colony” / “P.O.W. Camp”:
If so, a rather unusual one, able to fire numerous rockets whenever the fancy takes it, at the cities of those it considers its enemies.
“Genocide” / “Holocaust”; also: “Slaughtering”/ “murdering”/ “victimization”:
Presumably when taking time-off from doing the: “Apartheid”, “Ghettos”.
Terms that are “Psychological Projection” propaganda, as Israel does not target civilians, while the “Palestinian Authority” funded by the “European Union”, pays a reward-“pension” for murder of Jews including children - see above source, and firing rockets at Israeli population centers.
“Stealing” / “Colonizing”:
Jewish ancestral-land, since all the disputed areas are on land of the former Jewish Kingdoms of Judah / Israel !
The Jewish people are indigenous to their ancestral-homeland of Israel, with unbroken presence there from Biblical times:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographi...e_(region)
Map of post-Biblical Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom including the: “West Bank”, Gaza, and Golan Heights, capital of (what is now EAST) Jerusalem / “Old City”; between 110 BCE / 754 BH and 63 BCE / 706 BH:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c...ingdom.jpg
“Invading”:
Jewish ancestral-land - see above!
“Illegally-Occupying”:
Jewish ancestral-land - see above!
Building allegedly illegal homes (aka “settlements”) on the "West Bank". That such homes / settlements obstruct a two-state solution:
The “Palestinian” Arabs agreed to the Oslo Accords under which Israel retains full control over "West Bank" Area C, due to “Palestinian” Arab breach of the Accords falsely-claiming ALL the land and continuing terrorism. Oslo permits Israeli homes / “settlements” in "West Bank" Area C. All the "West Bank" is land of the prior Jewish Kingdoms of Judah / Israel. The “Palestinian” Arabs do not believe in any two-state solution - Clear from their education system and National Charter.
Building allegedly “illegal” homes (aka “settlements”) in the ancestral Jewish capital of “East Jerusalem” aka “Old City”:
The false allegation of “illegality” a travesty of modern-history, as in 1948 the Jordanian-occupiers expelled all the Jews from East Jerusalem:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamizati...occupation
That Israel has “constantly-expanding” borders:
“Psychological Projection” propaganda, since as an attempt at “land for peace” Israel gave the “Palestinian” Arabs autonomy of 40% of the "West Bank" and the whole of Gaza under the Oslo Accords so that Israel lost control of the land that the “Palestinian” Arabs gained.
That Israel is “in breach of international law / laws”:
The U.N. has a built-in pro-Arab bias due to a block-vote of up to 56 countries.
By International constitutional law, laws must not be passed intrinsically-unjust to persecute a minority, e.g. the Nazi Nuremberg Laws.
Meanwhile pro-“Palestinian” Arabs also allege:
That the Jewish people are not really Jewish:
To dishonestly evade the noble Quran’s recognition that the Land of Israel is given by Allah / God to the Jewish people (noble Quran: Sura “Al-Maaida” 5:21), and to perpetrate a hoax that Jewish Israelis are foreign invaders.
AND (strangely)
That the “Palestinian” Arabs are the “real-Jews”:
Again, in order to dishonestly evade the noble Quran’s recognition - see above.
Inconsistent with the latter, the “Palestinian” Arabs also falsely-claim (more strangely) they are descended from the Canaanites:
“Palestinian” Arab propaganda that replaces the history of Jewish presence in the Jewish people’s ancestral-homeland of Israel, with a fake Arab history. The Canaanites do not exist today and the “Palestinian” Arabs have no connection with them (either): “PA daily op-ed claims the land belongs to Palestinians since the time of the Canaanites and the Philistines. Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, official PA daily, Oct 14, 2015”:
https://palwatch.org/page/8850
Genuine History and News have internationally accepted objective-evidence. The “Palestinian” Arabs do not “do” objective-evidence. They also label as: “Propaganda”, “Hasbara” (Hebrew: “information”), “Dehumanization”, “Subterfuge”, “Rant”, “Lies”, “Fake”, “Spam”,
any verifiable-argument or sources they seem Unable to answer and therefore also, Refuse to answer.
Falsehood against Israel typically either:
Psychologically-reflects what the pro-“Palestinian” Arab contributors desire to have happen to Israel / the Jewish people,
or,
constitute “Psychological Projection” propaganda representing the actual policies and behaviour of the “Palestinian” Arabs.
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Posted by: Robert - 10-30-2021, 03:32 PM - Forum: Israel
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“Palestinian” Arab “Psychological Projection” propaganda attempts to justify Arab invasion, theft, and illegal-occupation, of the ancestral-homeland of the Jewish people - Israel, by alleging the Jews / Israel invaded the land and stole it from the “Palestinian” Arabs. They do this both by:
Falsely-denying the roots of the Jewish people in the Jews ancestral-homeland of Israel,
and by failing to mention that the “Palestinian” Arabs mostly originate from Foreign-Arab-Migrant-Workers who came to the land of Israel just prior to, and during the British Mandate (see below), and who sought to take all the land from its indigenous Jews and seek to murder or expel them.
There has never been an indigenous “Palestine” / Arab sovereign state in the land of Israel upon which the “Palestinian” Arabs could base any claim to any part of Israel. The name “Palestine” is the Roman-imposed rename of Israel / Judah, a name later resurrected for the British Mandate. Both Roman and British powers were foreign imperial rule. The name “Palestine” was used by the Romans to attempt to negate Israel / Judah as names for the land. Today the “Palestinian” Arabs and their primarily antisemitic supporters, use the name “Palestine” for the same purpose.
The Arabs willingly accepted “Palestine” as the Roman-imposed rename of Israel / Judah. Why? Because their propaganda would not be as effective if they accused the Jews of stealing “Judah”.
The “Palestinian” Arabs falsely-allege Israeli Jews all came from Europe. Some Jews are returnee-exiles, since the Jewish people have Judah heritage (“Jew”=citizen of “Judah” - Judaism is both an ethnicity as well as a religion). The Jewish people are indigenous to their ancestral-homeland of Israel, with unbroken presence there from Biblical times:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographi...e_(region)
Israel is Re-established within the Jewish ancestral-homeland. Internationally-recognised history shows that the last indigenous sovereign state in the land of Israel (Roman-imposed name “Palestine”), prior to the RE-establishment of Israel in 1948, was the post-Biblical Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom. It included what is now referred to as the “West Bank”, Gaza, and Golan Heights. Capital (what is now East) Jerusalem / “Old City”; between 110 BCE / 754 BH and 63 BCE / 706 BH - Map:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c...ingdom.jpg
Map Jewish Kingdom of Israel-Samaria, incl. part of the “West Bank” (rest held by Judah), and Golan Heights, last capital Samaria; between 930 BCE / 1599 BH and 720 BCE / 1383 BH:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kingd...ap_830.svg
Map Jewish Kingdom of Judah, incl. part of the “West Bank” (rest held by Israel-Samaria), capital of (what is now EAST) Jerusalem / “Old City”; between 930 BCE / 1599 BH and 586 BCE / 1244 BH.
(See previous source - same map.)
Map Jewish Kingdom of Israel - United, incl. “West Bank”, Gaza, and Golan Heights, capital of (what is now EAST) Jerusalem / “Old City”; between 1050 BCE / 1723 BH and 930 BCE / 1599 BH:
https://www.quora.com/Were-the-Golan-Hei...d-Monarchy
Map Tribes of Israel confederation - Apportionment of Canaan; about 1200 BCE / 1877 BH to 1050 BCE / 1723 BH:
https://en-academic.com/pictures/enwiki/...el_Map.svg
Therefore just as Israel / the Jewish people logically cannot:
“invade”,
or “illegally-settle”,
or “be a colony on”,
its OWN ancestral-homeland,
it also cannot logically “steal” nor “illegally-occupy”, its OWN ancestral-homeland.
Archeological examples:
i) Coin of Alexander Jannaeus, king and high priest of Judea [Hasmonean kingdom] from (103 BCE / 746 BH to 76 BCE / 719 BH):
https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/ent...r_Jannaeus
ii) Reign of the Hasmonean Kingdom’s last King - King Mattathias Antigonus, c. [approx.] 40 BCE / 682 BH. See (at last looking) the seventh image down, at:
https://www.jewishgiftplace.com/Ancient-Menorahs.html
Discovered in rubble from Temple Mount - Seal of priestly family of Immer from 7th century B.C.E., First Temple - see page 52:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication...ng_project
The name “Palestine” is the Roman-imposed rename of Israel / Judah (see below).
The League of Nations in 1922 resurrecting the name “Palestine” from Roman occupation, authorized a British Mandate; an administrative region ruled by a foreign imperial power, a region covering today’s: Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Territories - See second and third maps down, at:
http://www.shamrak.com/Masada2000-Histor...estine.htm
JEWISH citizens of the British Mandate were Palestinian:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/p6hjhurn7...s.pdf/file
The Media of the time referred to Mandate inhabitants, as:
“Palestinian Arabs”, / “Palestinian Jews”, or as: “Arabs” / “Jews”.
The prior Ottoman Turkish empire did not use any such political name as “Palestine”, but rather Ottoman-occupied Judah / Israel was within the Ottoman province of “Syria:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Syria
Who were the Arabs living in British “Palestine” Mandate administered Israel?
The “Palestinian Arabs” dropped the name “Arab” because they do not want you to understand they mostly originate from Foreign-Arab-Migrant-Workers who came to the land of Israel just prior to, and during the British Mandate, to take advantage of higher wages through Jewish returnee-exiles:
Quote:“[...] most Arabs in British Mandate Palestine were migrant workers and descendants of the 1832-1947 wave of Arab/Muslim immigration from Egypt, the Sudan, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Yemen, Libya, North Africa, Bosnia, India, Afghanistan, etc. While the British Mandate encouraged Arab immigration, it blocked Jewish immigration.”
Extract source:
http://theettingerreport.com/arab-migrat...n-society/
The “Palestinian” Arabs considering themselves Arab were opposed to being called a “People” until the 1960’s, when they decided it fitted with their intention to steal the land of Israel from its indigenous Jews:
http://www.targetofopportunity.com/pales..._truth.htm
Since the “Palestinian” Arabs arrived in the land of Israel well after its indigenous Jews, this makes the Arabs the “settler-colonists”.
Many people are hoodwinked by “Palestinian” Arab falsehood-propaganda, due to the following:
i) Lack of objective-information about the historical background;
ii) Anti-Semitism;
iii) False-validation of the “Palestinian” Arab falsehood-propaganda by the Arab-dominated United Nations (policies copied by the “European Union”). This is due to the U.N.’s block-vote of up to 56 Arab and additional Islamic-aligned countries, plus the influence of Arab oil money with consequential trading-power; compared to Israel being just one country;
“Palestinian” Arab propaganda knocks at “an open door”, many people being Willing to believe them, while Unwilling to verify it from objective-sources, due to anti-Semitism (about which they are often in denial).
From where did “Palestine” as a name imposed on the land of Israel, come?
The Romans imposed the name “Palæstina” (“Palestine”) on Roman-occupied Judah / Israel, resurrecting the name from the defunct much smaller region of “Philistia” (Hebrew: פלשת , Pleshet); the “Palestinian” Arabs have no connection with the ancient Philistines:
Quote:“In the aftermath of the war [the Simon bar Kokhba revolt against the Roman Empire in 132 C.E. / 505 B.H. to 135 C.E. / 502 B.H., Roman Emperor] Hadrian consolidated the older political units of Judea, Galilee, and Samaria into the new province of Syria Palaestina (Palestine) [...] derived from the ancient sea-faring Philistine people who occupied the coastal plain around the first millennium B.C.E.”
Extract source:
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Bar_Kochba
Quote:'[...] The word Palestine derives from Philistia, the name given by Greek writers to the land of the Philistines, who in the 12th century BCE occupied a small pocket of land on the southern coast, between what are now Tel Aviv–Yafo and Gaza. The name was revived by the Romans in the 2nd century CE in “Syria Palaestina,” designating the southern portion of the province of Syria [which included Roman-occupied Israel ...]
it had no official status until after World War I and the end of rule by the Ottoman Empire, when it was adopted for one of the regions mandated to Great Britain. [...]'
Extract source:
https://www.britannica.com/place/Palestine
Israel was Re-established in 1948 following a United Nations Partition Plan under resolution 181, which had sought to set up two states, one Jewish and one Arab. The then Palestinian Jewish Community accepted it, but it requires more than one party to constitute an agreement. In 1947 the “Palestinian” Arab response was to start a civil war to oppose the U.N. Partition Plan, instead take ALL the land of Israel, and ethnically-cleanse or murder the Jews from the Jews ancestral-homeland of Israel:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947%E2%80..._Palestine
In 1948 the Arab countries invaded with the same objectives, but lost the war. Jordan illegally-occupied the "West Bank" and East Jerusalem from which the Jordanians expelled the Jews. Egypt illegally-occupied the Gaza strip.
“Palestinian” Arab propaganda falsely-alleges the Re-establishment of Israel caused: a “great injustice” / “nakba” (“catastrophe” / “disaster”) to the “Palestinian” Arabs.
In reality:
> The “Palestinian” Arabs violently rejected the Arab state of the United Nations Partition Plan;
> Jordan and Egypt occupied the land proposed for an Arab state under the U.N. Partition Plan (approximating to the “West Bank” and Gaza);
> BOTH Arabs and Jews, became war-refugees;
> The Palestinians falsely-claim with no evidence of any such policy that they were expelled from the land; Jews were indeed expelled by the Arabs as policy.
> “Palestinian” Arabs live and work in Israel.
Therefore the reader is entitled to be skeptical about “Palestinian” Arab propaganda alleging a fantasy-injustice.
Some Arab refugees had owned land / homes in the land of Israel, but land / home ownership does not of itself amount to proof of entitlement to the sovereignty of the country in which a community lives.
Referring to the Bible where it talks about the Jewish people being given the land of Canaan by Allah / God, the noble Quran recognizes that the Land of Israel is given by Allah / God to the Jewish people, saying:
Quote:Sura (chapter) “Al-Maaida” [“The Table” or “The Table Spread with Food”] 5:21:
“O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you,
and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.”
Translation extract source:
http://www.searchtruth.com/chapter_displ...ator=2&mac=
The context from which the extract from the Quran is taken supports that recognition (for example, the previous verse 20 mentions Moses); and if someone alleges that it does not, then the reader should expect them to be able to explain that !
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Posted by: Robert - 10-29-2021, 03:02 PM - Forum: Israel
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Why are Israeli homes in Judah and Samaria (“West Bank”) falsely-alleged to be “illegal”?:
The following is how the U.N. Lawfare against Israel works:
> Falsely regarding Israel/the Jewish people as illegally-occupying "Judah and Samaria" ("West Bank, the");
> Then, based on that consequently, Israeli homes and villages (referred to in the Media (and strangely also in Israel) erroneously as "settlements"), within "Judah and Samaria" ("West Bank") become: "illegal in International law";
> Then, consequential U.N. Court decisions based in those biased U.N. policies.
How does the U.N. bias against Israel work?:
The “Palestinian” Arabs start-off in U.N. votes by enjoying a block-vote in their favor of up to 56 Arab and additional Islamic-aligned countries (e.g. U.N. member states that are also members of the “Organization of Islamic Cooperation” and follow its policies when voting in the U.N.), and influence of Arab oil money with consequential trading power; compared to Israel’s one vote.
Security Council resolutions passed against Israel are typically during the tenure of U.S. Democratic Party Presidents who decide not to use their veto to protect Israel from unjust resolutions.
Such U.N. policies are illegal, being in conflict with the international treaty signed by the Israelis and “Palestinian” Arabs - the Oslo Accords which also constitute international law.
Since the “Palestinian” Arabs arrived in the land well after the Jews, this makes the Arabs the “occupier/colonist/settlers”; not the Jews. (See use of terms below.) The whole rationale of alleged “illegality” in relation to Israeli home-building / “settlements” is illogical and should not be accepted on its face value.
The Oslo Accords (agreed to by the “Palestinian” Arabs) separate Judah and Samaria (“West Bank”) into Areas A, B, and C; underwhich Israel is permitted to build homes (aka “settlements”) in Area C.
People often wonder why the Israeli homes (settlements) are Jewish: The reason is that the “Palestinian” Arabs do not permit Jews in the “Palestinian” Arab-controlled Areas, killing any Jew they find near them - Example:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/j...-west-bank
How did the “Palestinian” Arabs breach the terms of the Accords?
By failing to: Quote: “[...] prevent acts of terrorism crime and hostilities [...]” (Article XV).
This is quite clear because:
The Palestinian Authority aka Fatah lost control of Gaza to Hamas, which fires numerous barrages of rockets at Israeli cities (and committed the barbaric attack and massacre of October 7th, 2023):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinia..._on_Israel
The “Palestinian Authority” aka Fatah (funded by the “European Union”) and the “Palestinian Liberation Organization” by Palestinian Law, pay a reward-“pension” (the “Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund”) for the murder of Israeli Jewish civilians including children:
Here is an example from the “Palestinian” Arab on-going anti-Jewish hate-war, where their propaganda typically refers to any consequential security measures as “Israeli-oppression”:
Israeli girl, Hallel Yaffa Ariel, aged 13, fatally stabbed in her bedroom in West Bank by a Palestinian terrorist, June 30, 2016, The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/j...iryat-arba
That part of “Judah and Samaria” now wrongly referred to as the “West Bank”, first became known as the “West Bank” when the Jordanians illegally-occupied it in 1948 - See under heading: “Etymology” - West Bank:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank
Jordanian illegal-occupation of Judah and Samaria (“West Bank”) 1948 to 1967:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanian_..._West_Bank
Why do the Jewish people refer to the “West Bank” as: “Judea (aka Judah) and Samaria”?:
What is now known as the “West Bank” (of the Jordan river) was within two prior contemporaneous Jewish indigenous sovereign states. These were: Israel-Samaria (northern Kingdom), and Judah (aka Judea) (southern Kingdom).
Part of it (what is now referred to as the “West Bank”) was within the one kingdom, while the rest of it was within the other kingdom.
(Both of those kingdoms covered an region greater than just what is now referred to as the “West Bank”.)
Map:
i) Jewish Kingdom of Israel-Samaria, including part of the “West Bank”, and Golan Heights, (its final) capital Samaria; between 930 BCE / 1599 BH and 720 BCE / 1383 BH - see map link below.
ii) Jewish Kingdom of Judah, including the rest of the “West Bank”, capital of (what is now East) Jerusalem / “Old City”; between 930 BCE / 1599 BH and 586 BCE / 1244 BH (same map for both kingdoms):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kingd...ap_830.svg
There has never been any indigenous “Palestine” / Arab sovereign state in the land of Israel on which the “Palestinian” Arabs could base any claim on any part of the land of Israel.
Therefore just as Israel / the Jewish people logically cannot:
“Invade”,
or “steal”,
or “illegally-occupy”,
or “be a colony on”,
its OWN ancestral-homeland,
it also cannot logically “illegally-settle” its OWN ancestral-homeland.
The matter becomes clear when accurate-terms are applied:
> “Israelis” / "Israeli villagers" (NOT Israeli “settlers”) (being either: Jews whose ancestors have unbroken-presence in their ancestral-homeland of Israel, or Jewish returnee-exiles).
> “Israeli-homes” / "Israeli village” (NOT Israeli “settlement(s)”). (When referring to more than one abode.)
Jews “Re-settling” their ancestral-homeland are therefore “Returnees”.
Israeli “settlers” are either:
> Jews whose ancestors have unbroken-presence in their ancestral-homeland of Israel.
> Jewish-exiles returned to their ancestral-homeland of Israel, who have Judah heritage.
(The clue is in the name: “Jew”=citizen of Judah - Judaism is both an ethnicity as well as a religion.)
The Jews have unbroken presence in their ancestral-homeland of Israel since Biblical times, while the Arabs arrived much later (see below).
> “Palestinian-Arab settlers” (NOT “Palestinian villagers”).
> “Palestinian-Arab settlement” (NOT “Palestinian village”) (when referring to more than one abode.)
Who were the Arabs living in British “Palestine” Mandate administered Israel?
“Palestinian” Arab propaganda alleges the Jews / Israel invaded the land, stole it from the “Palestinian” Arabs. They do this both by falsely-denying the roots of the Jewish people in the Jews ancestral-homeland of Israel, and by failing to mention that the “Palestinian” Arabs mostly originate from Foreign-Arab-Migrant-Workers who came to the land of Israel just prior to, and during the British Mandate:
https://richardmatherblog.wordpress.com/2015/05/
The “Palestinian” Arabs were opposed to being called a “People” until the 1960’s, when they decided it fitted with their intention to steal the land of Israel from its indigenous Jews:
http://www.targetofopportunity.com/pales..._truth.htm
Political description of Israeli “settlements” (Israeli home-building) on the "West Bank", as an “obstacle to peace” / “expansion of “borders” through the alleged building of “illegal-settlements”, in reality is political support for both the “Palestinian” Arab false-claim to Israeli Area C of the West Bank, and for their intention to steal ALL the land of Israel and expel (or murder) the Jews.
[Updated January 21, 2025.]
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Posted by: Robert - 10-27-2021, 10:04 PM - Forum: Israel
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“Palestinian” Arab propaganda seeks without any evidence, to falsely-assert the “Palestinian” Arabs come either from peoples pre-dating the Jewish people, or allegedly from Jewish converts, as a device to falsely-claim the land of Israel. Yet they appear somewhat “confused” about their ancestry, failing to produce any one convincing story. They falsely-claim without evidence that the “Palestinian” Arabs are variously (depending on the audience):
The so-called “real-Jews”; aka from converted Jews (while also claiming the Jewish people are “fake”),
from the Philistines,
and inconsistent with the foregoing, the Palestinians claim to their own people, likewise without evidence, they come from the Canaanites (see source next).
While promoting their conflicting ancestry propaganda, the “Palestinian” Arabs insult the reader’s intelligence by providing:
No details, no objective-scientific sources; zero credible anthropological evidence.
“Palestinian” Arab propaganda that replaces the history of Jewish presence in the Jewish people’s ancestral-homeland of Israel, with a fake Arab history. The Canaanites do not exist today and the “Palestinian” Arabs have no connection with them (either):
“PA daily op-ed claims the land belongs to Palestinians since the time of the Canaanites and the Philistines. Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, official PA daily, Oct 14, 2015”:
https://palwatch.org/page/8850
The “Palestinian” Arabs falsely-claim to be Canaanites:
http://myrightword.blogspot.com/2011/03/...s-are.html
Pro-“Palestinian” Arabs also falsely-claim the “Palestinian” Arabs are the so-called “real Jews”, while also seeking falsely to deny the Judah heritage of the Jewish people, yet providing: No evidence.
Were any scientific evidence purported, its source should be quoted so the reader can discover what other experts say about it.
Whereas millions of Jewish men, women, and children, were murdered by the Nazis for being ethnically-Jewish, the “Palestinian” Arabs and their anti-Semitic supporters claim propaganda-fantasy falsely-denying the Judah heritage of the Jewish people and falsely-claiming the “Palestinian” Arabs are descendants of Jews, so as to dishonestly evade the noble Quran’s recognition that the Land of Israel is given by Allah / God to the Jewish people (see the noble Quran: Sura “Al-Maaida” 5:20-21).
To do this they seek to perpetrate a hoax that Jewish Israelis are foreign invaders. This is to attempt to justify taking the land of Israel, in which the Jewish community has had unbroken presence since from Biblical times !
Referring to the Bible where it talks about the Jewish people being given the land of Canaan by Allah / God, the noble Quran recognizes (without naming it) that the Land of Israel is given by Allah / God to the Jewish people, saying:
Quote:Sura (chapter) “Al-Maaida” [“The Table” or “The Table Spread with Food”] 5:21:
“O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you,
and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.”
Translation extract source:
http://www.searchtruth.com/chapter_displ...ator=2&mac=
The “Palestinian” Arab propaganda seeks to perpetrate a hoax that Jewish Israelis are foreign invaders. This is to attempt to justify taking the land of Israel, in which the Jewish community has had unbroken presence since from Biblical times!:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographi...e_(region)
Who were the Arabs living in British “Palestine” Mandate administered Israel?
There has never been an indigenous “Palestine” / Arab sovereign state in the land of Israel upon which the “Palestinian” Arabs could base any claim to any part of Israel.
Following the Ottoman Turkish defeat in the First World War, the League of Nations in 1922 resurrecting the name “Palestine” from Roman occupation, authorized a British Mandate; an administrative region ruled by a foreign imperial power, it was an area that later would be today’s: Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Territories.
Please scroll down and compare the second and third maps, at:
http://www.shamrak.com/Masada2000-Histor...estine.htm
JEWISH citizens of the British Mandate were Palestinian: Irrespective of race or religion citizens of the British Mandate became: “Palestinian”.
The Media of the time referred to Mandate inhabitants, as:
“Palestinian Arabs”, / “Palestinian Jews”, or as: “Arabs” / “Jews”.
The prior Ottoman Turkish empire did not use any such political name as “Palestine”, but rather Ottoman-occupied Judah / Israel was within the Ottoman province of “Syria”:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Syria
“Palestinian” Arab “Psychological Projection” propaganda attempts to justify Arab invasion, theft, and illegal-occupation, of the ancestral-homeland of the Jewish people - Israel, by alleging the Jews / Israel invaded the land and stole it from the “Palestinian” Arabs. They do this both by falsely-denying the roots of the Jewish people in the Jews ancestral-homeland of Israel, and by failing to mention that the “Palestinian” Arabs mostly originate from Foreign-Arab-Migrant-Workers who came to the land of Israel just prior to, and during the British Mandate, and who sought to take all the land from its indigenous Jews and seek to murder or expel them:
https://richardmatherblog.wordpress.com/2015/05/
The “Palestinian” Arabs having considered themselves to be Arab only, this is why they were opposed to being called a “People” until the 1960’s, when they decided it fitted with their intention to steal the land of Israel from its indigenous Jews:
http://www.targetofopportunity.com/pales..._truth.htm
Research (2014) on 1,000 “Palestinian” Arab surnames ranked them (numbered them) in order of the highest instances of each surname found in the Palestine region. It also then identified the country(ies) having the highest incidence of those surnames; whether of “Palestine” or other countries.
I examined the first 100 of those ranked “Palestinian” Arab surnames (from the total of 1,000 ranked surnames), which makes a 10% sample.
Of the sample first 100 ranked “Palestinian” Arab surnames:
16 surnames had the highest incidence in the Palestine region.
The remaining 84 “Palestinian” Arab surnames had the highest incidence in countries other than the Palestine region, as follows:
35 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Egypt.
11 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Iraq.
9 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Yemen.
7 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Syria.
6 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Jordan.
6 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Pakistan.
3 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Nigeria.
2 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Sudan.
2 ranked surnames had highest incidence in India.
1 ranked surname had highest incidence in Tanzania.
1 ranked surname had highest incidence in Saudia Arabia.
1 ranked surname had highest incidence in Bangladesh.
Total 84
Summary-extract of the highest 10 ranked “Palestinian” Arab surnames (see source below for full list and detail):
1) Awad:
Highest incidence country: Sudan.
2) Al Najjar:
Highest incidence country: Yemen.
3) El Masry:
Highest incidence country: Jordan.
4) Odeh:
Highest incidence country: Nigeria.
5) Hamdan:
Highest incidence country: Syria.
6) Saleh:
Highest incidence country: Yemen.
7) Al Khatib:
Highest incidence country: Syria.
8) Shaheen:
Highest incidence country: Egypt.
9) Manssour:
Highest incidence country: Egypt.
10) Mousa:
Highest incidence country: Egypt.
My extract source document:
84 of 100 highest incidence Palestinian surnames (Palestine region in 2004), had highest incidence outside that region: See my “Country Origin of Palestinian Arab Surnames upd.pdf” - Information source “forebears.io”:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/9d115bv6w4z4kzb/Country+Origin+of+Palestinian+Arab+Surnames+upd.pdf/file
Since the “Palestinian” Arabs arrived in the land of Israel well after its indigenous Jews, this makes the Arabs the “settler-colonists”.
The “Palestinian” Arabs make many false-claims which the reader will find cannot be verified by any internationally-recognized objective-evidence.
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Posted by: Robert - 10-27-2021, 05:06 PM - Forum: Israel
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The allegation that Israel / the Jews, “illegally occupy Palestine” (the Roman-imposed rename for Israel / Judah), is “Palestinian” Arab falsehood-propaganda falsely-validated by the United Nations with its built-in pro-“Palestinian” Arab bias (see below). There has never been an indigenous “Palestine” / Arab sovereign state in the land of Israel upon which the “Palestinian” Arabs could base any claim to any part of Israel.
“Palestinian” Arab “Psychological Projection” propaganda attempts to justify Arab invasion, theft, and illegal-occupation, of the ancestral-homeland of the Jewish people - Israel, by alleging the Jews / Israel invaded the land and stole it from the “Palestinian” Arabs. They do this both by falsely-denying the roots of the Jewish people in the Jews ancestral-homeland of Israel, and by failing to mention that the “Palestinian” Arabs mostly originate from Foreign-Arab-Migrant-Workers who came to the land of Israel just prior to, and during the British Mandate (see below), and who sought to take all the land from its indigenous Jews and seek to murder or expel them.
People tend to be mislead by the “halo-reputation” United Nations which falsely-validates the accusation of an Israeli illegal-occupation. The U.N. and its structures have for many years had a built-in pro “Palestinian” Arab bias. The “Palestinian” Arabs start-off in U.N. votes by enjoying a block-vote in their favour of up to 56 Arab and additional Islamic-aligned countries (e.g. U.N. member states that are also members of the “Organization of Islamic Cooperation” and follow its policies when voting in the U.N.), and influence of Arab oil money with consequential trading power; compared to Israel being just one country.
Israel cannot logically nor in law, illegally -“occupy” the “West Bank: nor Gaza, since they are land of previous indigenous Jewish kingdoms, were retrieved from Egyptian / Jordanian illegal-occupation, and the entity making that false-claim “Palestine” - has never existed as a sovereign state.
Israel left Gaza to Palestinian Autonomy in 2005, under the Oslo Accords.
Israel cannot logically nor in law, illegally-“occupy” East Jerusalem because:
There has never been a “Palestine” indigenous sovereign state,
Jerusalem was never internationally-designated for any Arab state,
East Jerusalem (Old City) was the capital of previous Jewish Kingdoms,
was retrieved from illegal-Jordanian-occupation in 1967, from which the Jews had been expelled by the Jordanian illegal-occupiers in 1948.
Israel cannot logically nor in law, illegally-“occupy” the Golan Heights, since it is land of previous Jewish kingdoms, e.g. the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom.
The legal definition of “Occupation” by countries is unclear (see below), but Israel cannot logically nor properly in law, be accused of illegal “occupation” of its own ancestral-homeland, and also where the regions concerned, were:
1) LAST under the illegal-occupation of a third party: This means prior to the 1967 war, the illegal-occupation by Jordan of the “West Bank” and East Jerusalem, and by Egypt of Gaza.
2) Where all the land in question rightfully belongs to the party, here Israel, accused of the alleged “occupation”:
All the land upon which the “Palestinian” Arab colonists reside, is of previous Jewish indigenous sovereign states of the Kingdoms of Israel (Samaria) / Judah.
3) Where the claim of “occupation” is made by an alleged-entity “Palestine” which never existed as an indigenous sovereign state, or by the “Palestinian” Arabs who arrived in the land after its indigenous Jews (see below); the “Palestinian” Arabs also not considering themselves a “People” until the 1960’s (see below).
There has never been any indigenous “Palestine” / Arab sovereign state upon which the “Palestinian” Arabs could either:
> Base any claim to the land of Israel; or any part thereof.
> Claim any alleged illegal “occupation”.
When the "Palestinian" Arabs claim to be an "occupied people", it is because that other "Palestinian" Arab false-claim of an illegal-occupation of land by the Jews / Israel (of the Jews own ancestral-homeland (!)), stands unprovable and lame. This is because there has never been an indigenous "Palestine" / Arab sovereign state in the land of Israel upon which the "Palestinian" Arabs could base any claim to any part of Israel.
While the legal definition of "illegal-occupation" is unclear in international law, it is generally accepted it can only apply to land. The assertion it can apply to a People is a creative, rather than a legal, concept.
Israel is the only country to which the all the land in question can rightfully belong, since the last indigenous sovereign state in the land prior to the RE-establishment of Israel in 1948, was the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom with (what is now East) Jerusalem as its capital, and including the “West Bank”, Gaza, and Golan Heights.
Therefore just as Israel / the Jewish people logically cannot:
“Invade”,
Or “steal”,
or “illegally-settle”,
or “be a colony on”,
its OWN ancestral-homeland,
it also cannot logically “illegally-occupy” its OWN ancestral-homeland.
Since the “Palestinian” Arabs arrived in the land of Israel well after its indigenous Jews (see below), this makes the Arabs the “settler-colonists”.
“Belligerent Occupation” is a matter of fact resting on the assertion of authority and control not sanctioned by international agreement. International laws on this are complex and lacking in clarity:
http://removethewall.org/wp-content/uplo...n-2009.pdf
The legal definition of “Occupation” is therefore unclear, and apparently also fails to consider a verifiable-claim to the land by the alleged-Occupier as a defence to the allegation. Therefore any country recovering land by force to which it has verifiable-claim, may be considered an “illegal occupier”, where political-allegiance is against it in the United Nations.
“United Nations” and “European Union” bias against Israel:
The allegation of an Israeli illegal-occupation of: “Palestine” / “Palestinian Land”, is “Palestinian” Arab propaganda based in denying Jewish roots in the Jews ancestral-homeland of Israel, falsely-validated by the “United Nations” and “European Union”. Both the U.N and E.U. falsely-treat the Jewish people as “invaders”, and so also as “thieves” and “illegal-occupiers” of the Jews OWN ancestral-homeland (land of the prior Jewish kingdoms of Judah / Israel), and therefore consequently of building “illegal-settlements” there, with Palestinian terrorism considered “resistance to occupation”.
Two-Thirds Majority typically-invoked to prevent a U.N. vote passing in favor of Israel:
https://news.un.org/en/story/2018/12/1027881
U.N. Anti-Semitic, Anti-Israel bias - “The U.N. and Israel: Key Statistics from UN Watch”:
https://www.unwatch.org/un-israel-key-statistics/
The “Palestinian” Arabs falsely-allege Israeli Jews all came from Europe. Some Jews are returnee-exiles, since the Jewish people have Judah heritage (“Jew”=citizen of “Judah” - Judaism is both an ethnicity as well as a religion). Yet the Jewish people are indigenous to their ancestral-homeland of Israel, with unbroken presence there from Biblical times:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographi...e_(region)
The Jewish people have had prior sovereign states in the land; example:
Post-Biblical history records the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom - Map including the “West Bank”, Gaza, and Golan Heights, with its capital of (what is now EAST) Jerusalem / “Old City”; between 110 BCE / 754 BH and 63 BCE / 706 BH:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c...ingdom.jpg
Coins from the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom:
i) Coin of Alexander Jannaeus, king and high priest of Judea [Hasmonean kingdom] from (103 BCE / 746 BH to 76 BCE / 719 BH):
https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/ent...r_Jannaeus
ii) Reign of the Hasmonean Kingdom’s last King - King Mattathias Antigonus, c. [approx.] 40 BCE / 682 BH. See (at last looking) the seventh image down, at:
https://www.jewishgiftplace.com/Ancient-Menorahs.html
The “Palestinian” Arabs claim ALL the land of Israel, and so falsely-claim it is all “occupied”.
Who were the Arabs living in British “Palestine” Mandate administered Israel?
The League of Nations in 1922 resurrecting the name “Palestine” from Roman occupation, authorized a British Mandate; an administrative region ruled by a foreign imperial power. JEWISH citizens of the British Mandate were Palestinian: Irrespective of race or religion citizens of the British Mandate became: “Palestinian”.
Extracts from five British “Government of Palestine” passports,
from which it can be seen that JEWISH citizens of the Mandate were “Palestinian”:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/p6hjhurn7...s.pdf/file
The Media referred to its inhabitants, as:
“Palestinian Arabs”, / “Palestinian Jews”, or as: “Arabs” / “Jews”.
The Ottoman Turkish empire did not use any such political name as “Palestine”:
The following image shows the list of Ottoman Turkish provinces called “vilayets”, which the reader can see includes “Syria” but does not include any “Palestine”:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c...ves%29.png
Ottoman-occupied Judah / Israel was within the Ottoman province of “Syria”:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Syria
The “Palestinian Arabs” dropped the name “Arab” so you should not understand they mostly originate from Foreign-Arab-Migrant-Workers who came to the land of Israel just prior to, and during the British Mandate, to take advantage of higher wages through Jewish returnee-exiles:
https://richardmatherblog.wordpress.com/2015/05/
84 out of 100 of the highest incidence Palestinian surnames (Palestine region in 2004), had highest incidence outside that region:
My extract source document:
“Country Origin of Palestinian Arab Surnames upd.pdf” - information source “forebears.io”:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/9d115bv6w...d.pdf/file
The “Palestinian” Arabs having considered themselves to be Arab only, this is why they were opposed to being called a “People” until the 1960’s, when they decided it fitted with their intention to steal the land of Israel from its indigenous Jews:
http://www.targetofopportunity.com/pales..._truth.htm
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