Israel What might be an appropriate Rebuttal to the ubiquitous "Free Palestine!"?

[Robert]

What might be an appropriate rebuttal to the ubiquitous "Free Palestine!", which is posted rather frequently to the Internet? 

My suggestion would be as follows: 

"Simply purporting to rename the land of Israel as "Palestine", does not constitute any valid claim over the land. There has never been any indigenous "Palestine" or Arab sovereign state in the land of Israel by which the Palestinian Arabs could base any claim to any part of the land of Israel. Israel is Re-established within the Jewish ancestral-homeland - Look up a map of the post-Biblical Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom. The name "Palestine" was used politically in history only twice: By the Romans, and for the Mandate awarded to Great Britain; both of them foreign imperial powers." 


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Note:
For those desiring verification of what I have put above, I have put sources in my discussion of the origins and usage of the name "Palestine", here: 
"Origins of the name “Palestine” and its usage in trying to negate the name Israel": 
https://www.thehebrewcafe.com/forum/show...hp?tid=803

[searchinmyroots]

Robert,

Although your response is a good one, based on solid evidence and history, from what I see, it doesn't make a difference what you say as most of the "Free Palestine" supporters don't want to hear or even better, listen.

I saw a news reporter asking some of the protesters questions and they ignored him and chanted even louder. One of their "leaders" told the others not to listen to them and to keep to the agenda.

There are a couple of Proverbs that relate to these kind of people.

If they only would be open to listening and having a discussion.

[Robert]

Robert,

Although your response is a good one, based on solid evidence and history, from what I see, it doesn't make a difference what you say as most of the "Free Palestine" supporters don't want to hear or even better, listen.

I saw a news reporter asking some of the protesters questions and they ignored him and chanted even louder. One of their "leaders" told the others not to listen to them and to keep to the agenda.

There are a couple of Proverbs that relate to these kind of people.

If they only would be open to listening and having a discussion.

When I started rebutting Palestinian Arab falsehood-propaganda against Israel/the Jewish people, I was under the mistaken impression there were likely to be two (valid) points of view (or two cases), but when I tried to research the Arab claims, I found they were bogus because there is no objective-historical evidence in their support; their purported claim(s) over the land of Israel being unverifiable, are therefore dishonest; and they know this.  

This then is the reason why pro Palestinian Arabs/Palestinian Arabs will either not 'listen', or react emotionally; they are aware their claims are bogus; and this is their reaction to their own dishonesty. Also, I have found that the primary support the Palestinian Arabs receive is from anti-Semites who are not interested in internationally-recognized historical evidence in any event.   

For this reason, the wording I suggested is not intended for the propagandist, but for the general reader. All my rebuttals on the Internet are worded in the third person! Examples are in my discussion "Defending Israel on Websites": 
https://www.thehebrewcafe.com/forum/show...p?tid=1102

[COmentator]

chant "From the Sea to the Jordan River Valley expel all the PLO to East Palestine aka Jordan'
As for those who attack Israel...unlose the Bow of War against them
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/382292
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/382273

WARNING KEEP GAZA JEWISH
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/382682

https://www.israel365news.com/381413/the...-delusion/
https://www.israel365news.com/381325/the...t-calumny/
https://www.israel365news.com/381395/for...etnam-war/

edom {the west} and ishmael {Arab world} will not win against the L-d
https://www.israel365news.com/381566/the...-solution/

Oh Israel wake UP to the enemies around and within you
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/382936

[Robert]

chant "From the Sea to the Jordan River Valley expel all the PLO to East Palestine aka Jordan'
As for those who attack Israel...unlose the Bow of War against them
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/382292
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/382273

Okay, but please also consider the effect of such a post on readers who have not yet made up their mind on the dispute. 

Does it inform them of Israel's/the Jewish people's case? 
Does it influence them? 
Does it do more than let them know on which side of the dispute you are?

[COmentator]

It seems this generation was raised who care only for the PLO..."Rights over all"
https://www.jewishrefugees.org.uk/2023/1...ment-12893

[Blue Bird]

Robert, I think it's important to talk to people and inform them. We usually don't hear these things and who knows, perhaps one day these views will bear fruit. Perhaps the battle is also being fought in the invisible world, which is why I believe prayer is a good weapon. Searchinmyroots says something. Some people suddenly discover their love for Palestine and use it as an excuse, so to speak, to fire words against Israel that soon become the main topic and don't stop. I respect those who have spoken out against the situation in Gaza and tried for years to find good solutions. What is a good solution? One topic would be enough, here we have more than one: religion, politics, economy, living conditions, external powers and interests and corruption.

[Robert]

It seems this generation was raised who care only for the PLO..."Rights over all"
https://www.jewishrefugees.org.uk/2023/1...ment-12893

Your link goes to an article entitled: "Young American demonstrators want Israelis to go back to Yemen and Libya": 
Those who understand the Jewish people's/Israel's case, should use their knowledge to explain it succinctly with citations, to those who have not yet made up their minds whether young or old. 

For example, there is a misunderstanding among non-Jews, that the attachment of Jewish people to the land of Israel is one only of religion. It is not. Judaism is both an ethnicity as well as a religion. Though not a requirement for conversion to Judaism, the Jewish people as a People have:  Judah heritage. That's the reason for the name: "Jew"=citizen of Judah. 

When referring more specifically to Israel’s Jewish people, these comprise:
> those of the unbroken Jewish presence that there has been in Israel since Biblical times:
The Jewish people are indigenous to their ancestral-homeland of Israel, with unbroken presence from Biblical times (see source below).
And
> Jewish returnee-exiles, who returned to their ancestral-homeland of Israel / Judah from many areas of the world:
For example from, Ethiopia, India, and Europe, ALL of whom have Judah heritage.

The Jewish people are indigenous to their ancestral-homeland of Israel, with unbroken presence there from Biblical times: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographi...e_(region)

We therefore need to explain to non-Jews that Israel is the ancestral-homeland (NOT "the homeland", but the ancestral-homeland) of the Jewish people, and that Jews outside the land of Israel in other countries originated in ancestry as exiles from the land of Israel. 
Hence, demanding Jews "go back" to countries outside of the Jewish ancestral-homeland is not only inappropriate; it is in fact, a nonsense.

By the way, I believe it is important to understand that the dispute over the land of Israel is NOT one of religion; but is due to the unverifiable territorial ambitions of the "Palestinian" Arabs.

[Robert]

Robert, I think it's important to talk to people and inform them. We usually don't hear these things and who knows, perhaps one day these views will bear fruit. [...]

In my reply to "searchinmyroots" I mentioned that when rebutting posts, I address my rebuttal to the general reader and not to the pro Palestinian Arab falsehood propagandist, but since I am typically using website technology which counts my "reply" as a "reply", the user who posted what I am rebutting, also sees my response.

Blue Bird also wrote:
[...] Some people suddenly discover their love for Palestine and use it as an excuse, so to speak, to fire words against Israel that soon become the main topic and don't stop. [...]

Then it would be a duty to inform the general reader that there has never been any indigenous "Palestine" or Arab sovereign state in the land of Israel upon which the "Palestinian" Arabs could base any claim to any part of the land. 
Those using the name "Palestine" use it to negate the proper names: Israel or Judah, for the land. That's what the Romans did and that is what the "Palestinian" Arabs and their primarily anti-Semitic supporters, still do today. 
The name "Palestine" which in Arabic is "Philistine" (there isn't even any "P" in Arabic), was sourced by the Romans from the much smaller and by then also defunct, Philistine area. 

Blue Bird also wrote:
[...] I respect those who have spoken out against the situation in Gaza and tried for years to find good solutions. What is a good solution? One topic would be enough, here we have more than one: religion, politics, economy, living conditions, external powers and interests and corruption.

The "Palestinian" Arabs, both Hamas and Fatah (aka "Palestinian Authority, the") both claim ALL the land of Israel (for which they have zero verifiable claims to any part of the land), and want to expel or murder all the Jews - which I have put previously in my postings both here and on other places on the Internet, and also since clearly demonstrated by the Hamas massacre of Israelis of October 7th, 2023. 
The living conditions imposed in Gaza by Hamas are not Israel's responsibility: Instead of looking after the welfare of their own people, Hamas have a hate-oriented, conflict-based economy, primarily existing on "humanitarian" aid. 

The following is why I believe the "Palestinian" Arabs have no valid status to stay in Gaza:

The "Palestinian" Arabs obtained autonomy of the whole of Gaza (together with 40% of Judah and Samaria ("West Bank")) under the Oslo Accords:
"Hamas" has never observed the Oslo Accords over the years firing thousands of rockets at Israeli cities whenever the fancy takes them, while "Fatah (under its guise of "Palestinian Authority, the") teaches to its children in its educational textbooks hatred of Jews and in which they also claim ALL of Israel (to none of it do the "Palestinian" Arabs have any verifiable-claim), and conduct a terrorist campaign in Judah and Samaria ("West Bank") and the rest of Israel, and committed the October 7th, 2023 massacre of Israelis. 

The "Palestinian" Arabs therefore being in blatant and indeed cynical, breach of the Oslo Accords, and devoid of any verifiable claims on any part of the land of Israel (which for propaganda purposes they and their United Nations and European Union friends, call "Palestine"), are therefore squatters and illegal-occupiers.

Many Egyptians entered Gaza as new "Palestinians" under the illegal-occupation of Gaza by Egypt 1948 to 1967 -  copies of two such passports issued by the then Egyptian illegal-occupiers of Gaza: 
https://www.mediafire.com/file/3ofilrrsl...s.pdf/file

Over a third of the 100 most numerous "Palestinian" Arab surnames are more numerous in Egypt than in the "Palestine region":
See my “Country Origin of Palestinian Arab Surnames upd.pdf” - Information source “forebears.io”: 
https://www.mediafire.com/file/9d115bv6w...d.pdf/file

"Palestinian" Arab propaganda has sought to convince people with the falsehood that the Jews/Israel have expelled/are expelling them. It may be that the time has now come to cause those "Palestinian" Arabs in Gaza (that is, those who are neither citizens of Israel nor have Israeli "resident" status) to be caused at last, to be truthful on this matter.

[Blue Bird]

Yes, I have heard about Hamas' intentions and plans. However, the people of Gaza are in a difficult situation and they are people like you and me and no one wants them, not even their Muslim friends want them in their country. I said that I respect those who have been thinking about the civilian population in Gaza for years, not because I share their opinion. I respect them because it seems important to them, they are honest in their own way unlike those who swim on the current wave.