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| Where is the mummy of Israel? |
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Posted by: James the Servant - 06-24-2019, 02:32 AM - Forum: Judaism General
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"And Joseph commanded his servants the physicians to embalm his father: and the physicians embalmed Israel."
Genesis 50:2
Supposedly, Israel is buried in the Cave of Machpelah, also known as the Cave of the Patriarchs in Hebron, Israel. If this is true, why are there no pictures of his mummy? Why haven't archaeologists done research to confirm that Israel is buried there? Why haven't modern Jews done a DNA test on Israel--to find out his Y-chromosome haplogroup--so that the sons of Israel can be found with solid proof and the remnants of Jacob can be brought back to Israel?
It is so frustrating to me to do research on this as there is nothing to be found concerning this topic! It leads me to believe that maybe Israel is not buried there anymore. Perhaps someone stole his mummy long ago and hid it or worst: destroyed it.
Thoughts?
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| Questions about Jewish belief and the Bible |
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Posted by: Peergint - 06-10-2019, 02:07 PM - Forum: Judaism General
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Hello,
I'm new here and a Christian and I'm interested in something, which I'm sure may have been answered before, but in case it hasn't....
According to the Bible itself, it is the inspired Word of God Himself. 2 Timothy 3:16. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness... so what, if any part of the Bible is accepted by Jews? Would it be the books of Moses?
The Bible prophesies concerning Israel are many and many have come to pass, but there are still others to happen. Indeed the Bible is full of prophesies concerning Jerusalem and Israel and I wondered what is accepted as truth in Jewish belief?
I also wondered about Jewish belief in Jesus Christ because I'm currently studying who Jesus was and it occurred to me that there are a number of reasons why they don't. I got the following from another website today which does not allow you to reply to any answers to questions you receive, strange, so here it is...
[size=undefined]"The Jewish Bible does not contain the twenty-seven books of what are called the New Testament in the Christian Bible nor the additional books accepted as inspired by Roman Catholics and Greek Orthodox Christians in what is called the Old Testament but which are not found in the Jewish Bible, namely, Tobit, Judith, The 1st Book of Maccabees, The 2nd Book of Maccabees, The Book of Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus/Ben Sira, and Baruch. The Jewish Bible is commonly called the Tanakh, an acronym for Torah, Neviim, Ketuvim--the three divisions of the text. These divisions are different from those in Christian Bibles. Most importantly, the interpretation of the material in common with Christians differs. For example, Isaiah 7:14 is not considered a text predicting a supernatural virginal conception for the Messiah, nor Psalm 45:7a a text predicitng that he would be God, as it is read in Letter to the Hebrews 1:8-9 (And about the Son [Jesus] he [God] says, 'Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever . . . "[/size]
[size=undefined]Please confirm if this is correct?[/size]
[size=undefined]Many thanks[/size]
[size=undefined]Peergint[/size]
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| Congratulations Robert Alter |
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Posted by: nili - 06-10-2019, 12:32 PM - Forum: Hangout
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I own a number of Torahs and Tanakhs and, when faced with some biblical question, it's not unusual for me to scan most of them for their translations and commentaries. Some of the books that I value most are those by Robert Alter including: - The Five Books of Moses
- The Book of Psalms
- David
- The Wisdom Books
And now Alter has published a complete Tanakh translation and commentary. I've just ordered the three volume set and hope to have it here by the end of this week.
If anyone is interested, you might want to take a quick look at this article from the New York Magazine.
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| Questions about Jewish belief and the Bible |
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Posted by: Peergint - 06-10-2019, 12:20 PM - Forum: Judaism General
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Hello everyone,
I am a Christian, no saying "oh no not another one" ok!
I am looking at who Jesus was and bible prophecies about Him and I'm trying to understand why most Jewish people don't accept Him as their Messiah.
There are many bible prophecies about Him which came true, but... I found out this morning that the "Jewish Bible is commonly called the Tanakh, an acronym for Torah, Neviim, Ketuvim--the three divisions of the text. These divisions are different from those in Christian Bibles. Most importantly, the interpretation of the material in common with Christians differs". I got this from somewhere else this morning, basically a website forum where you cannot answer answers to your questions... very strange.
So my question is this, if the bible prophecies Jesus (Immanuel) coming and all the prophecies from Isaiah to Micah, Ezra, and others predict His coming, His life, death and resurrection, and all of these prophecies happened, even if you don't believe in the bible, why do Jewish not believe in Him?
If you only use the books in the Jewish bible and they don't mention Jesus, (I'm assuming they don't at this point as I have never read them) but there is historical proof that Jesus existed, then it's worth looking into.
I'm not assuming that Jewish scholars, Rabbi's and others have not done this, but I'm just interested.
All other religions have their god's, but Christians worship the Jewish God, and I fully believe in Him, but I also believe that without Jesus who I believe is the Messiah that Jewish people are waiting for, we have no salvation.
The other thing is that the Bible prophecies concerning Israel: returning to their own land given to them by God Himself, vegetation growing in the desert, using your own currency again, speaking Hebrew, etc, have all come true and this concerns the end of the gentile age and the time of Israel again when Jesus returns to take His own, (the Rapture) prior to the tribulation.
Other prophecies regarding events in the middle east are also happening, which to me is more proof that the bible is correct in it's predictions.
I would like to know what anyone thinks to all this.
I'm sorry if all this has been asked before, but I would like to hear your opinion no matter how much it differs from mine because I want to learn.
Thank you.
Peergint
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| Introduction |
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Posted by: Peergint - 06-10-2019, 11:37 AM - Forum: Introductions
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New to this forum and getting older, but can still learn a thing or two...hopefully!
Peergint
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| Is Orthodox conversion in Israel possible for non-citizens? |
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Posted by: alizagabriella - 06-09-2019, 07:14 PM - Forum: Judaism General
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I'm part ethnically Jewish but don't have documments that prove it. I've found over the years that Judaism is the religion I believe in, and I want to live the rest of my life as an Orthodox Jew. Please don't try to discourage me or warn me about how hard it is, I am well aware of the challenges. I'm currently speaking with a rabbi in Israel and he offered to give me classes via Skype. First, I would like to know if these classes would be reliable and valid for and Orthodox conversion, and also how hard it is to get permission from the Israeli Rabbanut to convert.
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| Torah study |
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Posted by: nili - 06-07-2019, 12:00 PM - Forum: Hangout
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Has this forum ever attempted Torah study that begins with Genesis and works (plods?) its way through the Chumash?
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