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Pressure to assissilate |
Posted by: COmentator - 12-21-2023, 12:51 PM - Forum: Judaism General
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Even in TV Programs Sing a song of pressure to assissilate into a non Jewish way of life is there:
*The Jazz Singer; He faces a difficult decisiion as to stay within Jewish faith or bercome a professional Jazz singer. {he chooses Singing}
*Archie Bunker place: Archie Bunker Business Jewish partner weather he should marry a Shiska or not because it would displease his mother; the mother dies and he marries out of faith
*The waltons One of Waltons son has just finished tour of Duty in europe-he falls in love with an assimmlated Jewish girl; she deceided tomarry him
*A similar Case was in the Comedy Bridget Loves bernie: Working class Jewish Cab driver falls in love with Irish roman Catholic lace curtian upper class girl ;their two families are in conflict as to how the children should in raised in which religion. Ironically the persons who agree on most things are Bernie Jewish Uncle and Bridget brother (A Catholic Priest) OF course the series was canceled ...but the question is never answered for the children religions training: Bris vs Baptism; Bar Mizpath vs Confirmation; Hannak vs Christmas which will they choose?
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What might be an appropriate Rebuttal to the ubiquitous "Free Palestine!"? |
Posted by: Robert - 12-19-2023, 06:59 PM - Forum: Israel
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What might be an appropriate rebuttal to the ubiquitous "Free Palestine!", which is posted rather frequently to the Internet?
My suggestion would be as follows:
"Simply purporting to rename the land of Israel as "Palestine", does not constitute any valid claim over the land. There has never been any indigenous "Palestine" or Arab sovereign state in the land of Israel by which the Palestinian Arabs could base any claim to any part of the land of Israel. Israel is Re-established within the Jewish ancestral homeland - Look up a map of the post-Biblical Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom. The name "Palestine" was used politically in history only twice: By the Romans, and for the Mandate awarded to Great Britain; both of them foreign imperial powers."
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Note:
For those desiring verification of what I have put above, I have put sources in my discussion of the origins and usage of the name "Palestine", here:
"Origins of the name “Palestine” and its usage in trying to negate the name Israel":
https://www.thehebrewcafe.com/forum/show...hp?tid=803
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Questions on Exodus Ch. 5 -- Moses and Aaron meet Pharahh |
Posted by: gib65 - 12-16-2023, 03:09 AM - Forum: Judaism General
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Hello everyone,
Following up with my questions here, here, and here, I'm now posting my fourth question. It's not tied to a specific passage but to Exodus chapter 5 in general.
As I'm readying through, the first thing I notice is the use of the word "out" as opposed to "free", as in Exodus 5:2:
Exodus 5:2 Wrote:And Pharaoh said, "Who is the Lord that I should heed His voice to let Israel out? I do not know the Lord, neither will I let Israel out."
Source: https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo...pter-5.htm
In popular culture, most people assume the phraseology would use the word "free" instead of "out". We're all familiar with the 1956 Charlton Heston production of The Ten Commandments in which the phrase "Let my people free" rings loudly in our memories (or is it "Let my people go"? Either way, the choice of "out" is curious to me). This is undoubtedly a modern Western bias and I realize the choice of "out" is a matter of translation, but I have to assume that whoever the translators were (of my source at https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo...pter-5.htm) thought "out" was the best translation. Why?
One clue, which is emphasized heavily by Jordan Peterson in his series Exodus (https://www.dailywire.com/search/shows?query=exodus), is the often omitted addendum "...so they can sacrifice to Me in the desert." In other words, Moses is demanding not that the slaves be set free, but that they be handed over to a new "master", a master that would have them worship Him in the desert (though by all accounts, next to Pharaoh, this probably did count as freedom). After all, "exodus" means "out" (doesn't it?).
There's also this passage:
Exodus 5:12 Wrote:So the people scattered throughout the entire land of Egypt, to gather a gleaning for stubble.
Pharaoh certainly sent them "out" (it even emphasizes the "entire" land of Egypt). It's almost as if Pharaoh was trying to kill two birds with one stone--to satisfy Moses's demands while at the same time not losing a ounce of productivity. If it's "out" they want, why not get them to gather the stubble while they're at it, freeing up time and labor for the "stubble gatherers". But by no means are they "free".
Putting that interpretation aside, I'm also wondering if the changes imposed by Pharaoh actually are in response to Moses's and Aaron's demands to let the Hebrews "go" (out/free/whatever). The way the text reads, one *could* interpret it as simply coincidental. Exodus 5:4-7 says:
Exodus 5:4-7 Wrote:4. But the king of Egypt said to them, "Why, Moses and Aaron, do you disturb the people from their work? Go to your own labors." 5. And Pharaoh said, "Behold, now the people of the land are many, and you are stopping them from their labors." 6. So, on that day, Pharaoh commanded the taskmasters of the people and their officers, saying, 7. "You shall not continue to give stubble to the people to make the bricks like yesterday and the day before yesterday. Let them go and gather stubble for themselves.
It doesn't say that Pharaoh ordered this change because of the demands of Moses and Aaron. It could have just been a coincidence. I realize that verse 6 begins with "So..." (implying, "therefore", "because of that...", etc.) but in this context I'm thinking of this passage as a historical document, not as the ultimate truth of what happened--in other words, the author may have interpreted these events as connected but they may not have been. The chapter definitely concludes not only by linking these two events together but clearly depicts the Hebrews as making the link as well. Is there any reason, however, to assume this link is accurate (other than that it seems highly likely--which I agree with BTW)?
And finally, one last question: why did Moses and Aaron initially demand a "three day journey"? Surely, the plan was for more than three days. Indeed, wasn't it to free the Hebrews from the Egyptians forever? To form a nation as promised to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph*? Was this merely a ploy on their part? Something to trick Pharaoh (if it was, surely they could have done better than that)?
Looking for answers to this, I skimmed chapters 3 and 4 looking for what God precisely said to Moses and He said and I found:
Exodus 3:18 Wrote:And they will hearken to your voice, and you shall come, you and the elders of Israel, to the king of Egypt, and you shall say to him, 'The Lord God of the Hebrews has happened upon us, and now, let us go for a three days' journey in the desert and offer up sacrifices to the Lord, our God.'
So indeed Moses and Aaron are simply following through with what God told them to do. But why did God tell them to say this to Pharaoh? And if this is what Pharaoh heard, what of the order for the Hebrews to gather stubble for themselves? Was this too limited to three days?
* BTW, one thing I've been noticing is that when God cites the Patriarchs, he always omits Joseph. Example from Exodus 3:5: "In order that they believe that the Lord, the God of their forefathers, has appeared to you, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob." Why isn't Joseph listed? Joseph was the son of Jacob, wasn't he? Did the Hebrew slaves not descend from him?
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The man of a 1,000 Voices: |
Posted by: COmentator - 12-14-2023, 02:42 PM - Forum: Judaism General
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Blanc
130 VOice actor for:
*Bugs Bunny,
*Bugs Bunny as a Barber
*Bugs Bunny as a Policeman
*Bugs Bunny as a Snake Charmer
*Bugs Bunny as a Swami Rabbitima
*Bugs Bunny as a baker
*Bugs Bunny disguised as a woman
*Bugs Bunny as as Brünhilde
*Bugs Bunny as a doctor
*Bugs Bunny as a Conductor
*Bugs Bunny as a Prison Warden
*Bugs Bunny as a US Cavalry Sergeant
*Bugs Bunny as a US Marine
*Bugs Bunny as a Stalin {Herr Meets Hare)
*Bugs Bunny as Hitler (Herr meets Hare)
*Bugs Bunny as a Japanese General
*Daffy Duck,
*Daffy Duck as a DOnkey
*Man in Audiance (Cartoon)
*Tweety,
*Sylvestor cat
*Penelope Pussycat
*Pepe Le Pew
*Yosemite Sam,
*Yosemite Sam as Chilkoot Sam
*Yosemite Sam as "Square-deal Sam"
*Yosemite Sam as Riff Raff Sam
*Yosemite Sam as "Sam Schultz
*Yosemite Sam as "Seagoin' Sam"
*Yosemite SAm as "Shanghai Sam"
*Yosemite Sam as "Von Schamm the Hessian"
*Yosemite Sam as "Baron Sam von Schpamm"
*Yosemite Sam as "Black Knight"
*Yosemite Sam as "Royal Cook
*Yosemite Sam as Captain of the Praetorian Guard
*Charley Wolf
*spoiled king
* Devil.
*TV show announcer
*Dopey Dick
*Donkey
*Mule
*Robot
*The Roadrunner
*Wile E Coyote
*Ralph Phillips,
*Speedy Gonzales,
*Pedro Mouse,
* Jose Mouse,
*Camel
*Dragon
*King Arthur
*Sir Loin of Beef
*Sir Osis of Liver
* "Sir O of Kay, Earl of Watercress, Sir Osis of The Liver, Knight of the Garter, and Baron of Worcestersistercestersoustercestersistershire."
*Merlin the Wizard
*Elephant
*Little John
*Caliph Hassan Pfeffer,
*French Avaition Officer
*Prison Warden
*Game Warden Commissioner
*Guard
*Marvin the Martian
*Robinson Crusoe
*Irish Policeman
*Rocky {Spoof of Edward G Robinson)
*Hugo (Spoof of Peter Lorre)
*Rocky
*Muggsy
*Casting Director
*Foghorn Leghorn,
*Miss Prissy
*Fox
*Willy the Weasel
*Barnyard Dawg
*Henery Hawk
*George K. (or G.K.) Chickenhawk
*Poultry Judge
*Tasmanian Devil,
*Porky Pig
*Elmer Fudd
*Barney Rubble and Dino on The Flintstones,
*Mr. Spacely on The Jetsons,
*Secret Squirrel on The Atom Ant/Secret Squirrel Show,
*the title character of Speed Buggy,
*Captain Caveman on Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels and The Flintstone Kids
*Jack Benny's Maxwell car
Ed the Vault Guard
*Colonel Shuffle
*Gorilla bouncer
*gambling house owner
*Talking Parrott on epsiode of Perry Mason
*Woody Woodpecker
*VOice in Propaganda Film "Tokyo Woes
*Voice faux Walter Winchell- "Herr Meets hare"
*Hermann Göring ="Herr Meets hare"
*Playboy Penguin
*Humphrey Bogart
*Curt and Punkinhead Martin.
*Band leader of The Sow Belly Trio
*evil scientist" , a caricature of Boris Karloff
*Nasty Canasta
*Bartender
*Cowboys
*Military policeman
*Bruno the "Slobokian Acrobatic Bear
* Blacque Jacque Shellacque
*monster Gossamer
*Emperor Nero
*Hugo The Abominable Snowman
*Cartoon indians several
*Genie
*writer, who looks similar to William Shakespeare,
*Prince Charming
*Horse
*SCotsman
*Frenchman
*Bystanders
*Old man
*Gideon cat in Pinocchio
*Mexican on "The Jack Benny Show"
*Salesman on "The Jack Benny Show"
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